Future and Direction of the GOP

[carpedm9587]

I found this article interesting. One quote, in particular, jumped out at me. It's from Larry Hogan, the GOP governor of Maryland:

If you’re going to be a majority party, you’ve got to appeal to a majority of people.

It seems to me that this is a dilemma for the GOP. It is faced with the choice between adhering to its "core values," many of which are no longer supported by the majority of the country, or shifting its stance to align with the majority of the country so as to attract a broader base.

There is little doubt in my mind that Trumpism, while it has rallied a significant chunk of the Republican party, has actually alienated part of a party that is already well below the majority. It has also rallied Democrats and independent progressives and liberals as much as it has Republicans and independent conservatives.

I'm curious to know how others see this dilemma?

[Cow Poke]

Which of the core values do you think the GOP needs to abandon or soften?

[carpedm9587]

Which of the core values do you think the GOP needs to abandon or soften?

Well, the majority of Americans:

1) Want stricter gun control laws (69%)
2) Support gay marriage (67%) and LGBTQ rights (72%)
3) Want a "medicare-for-all" single-payer model (70%)
4) Want a balanced federal budget (89%)

Republicans appear to be largely against 1-3, and their actions (though not their words) are against #4. To be fair, Democrats do not fare any better with #4. They talk a good game - until they are in power. Then it's the same-old-same-old.

[Sparko]

I found this article interesting. One quote, in particular, jumped out at me. It's from Larry Hogan, the GOP governor of Maryland:

If you’re going to be a majority party, you’ve got to appeal to a majority of people.

It seems to me that this is a dilemma for the GOP. It is faced with the choice between adhering to its "core values," many of which are no longer supported by the majority of the country, or shifting its stance to align with the majority of the country so as to attract a broader base.

There is little doubt in my mind that Trumpism, while it has rallied a significant chunk of the Republican party, has actually alienated part of a party that is already well below the majority. It has also rallied Democrats and independent progressives and liberals as much as it has Republicans and independent conservatives.

I'm curious to know how others see this dilemma?

Actually I think the reason Trump won was because he appealed to the actual GOP core values where many of the Republican candidates did not. Like traditional marriage, border protection, jobs, capitalism, God and country. MAGA.

[Cow Poke]

Well, the majority of Americans:

1) Want stricter gun control laws (69%)
2) Support gay marriage (67%) and LGBTQ rights (72%)
3) Want a "medicare-for-all" single-payer model (70%)
4) Want a balanced federal budget (89%)

Republicans appear to be largely against 1-3, and their actions (though not their words) are against #4. To be fair, Democrats do not fare any better with #4. They talk a good game - until they are in power. Then it's the same-old-same-old.

Did you actually READ the article you posted?

It wasn't about those issues - it was basically that Trump is a jackass who alienates wide swaths of the populace, and I concur.

So, again --- FROM YOUR ARTICLE --- what are the core values that the GOP needs to jettison or downplay?

[Sparko]

Well, the majority of Americans:

1) Want stricter gun control laws (69%)
2) Support gay marriage (67%) and LGBTQ rights (72%)
3) Want a "medicare-for-all" single-payer model (70%)
4) Want a balanced federal budget (89%)

Republicans appear to be largely against 1-3, and their actions (though not their words) are against #4. To be fair, Democrats do not fare any better with #4. They talk a good game - until they are in power. Then it's the same-old-same-old.

You seem to be listening to the liberal bubble.

[Cow Poke]

You seem to be listening to the liberal bubble.

I think JimL may have turned him onto the "Liberal Talking Points for Dummies".

[Sparko]

I think JimL may have turned him onto the "Liberal Talking Points for Dummies".

As the liberals found out during the last election, a lot of these polls are wrong because a lot of conservatives don't like to broadcast their values, they just live them. But during elections or when the values are threatened they show up in numbers.

So when I see a poll that says most people want stricter gun control I figure they either didn't ask the right people, or the questions were so skewed as to get the answer they wanted. Like "Are you for keeping our children safe from being shot in the streets?" "of course!" and they get marked down as wanting more gun control. or something like that.

[Bill the Cat]

Well, the majority of Americans:

1) Want stricter gun control laws (69%)
2) Support gay marriage (67%) and LGBTQ rights (72%)
3) Want a "medicare-for-all" single-payer model (70%)
4) Want a balanced federal budget (89%)

Republicans appear to be largely against 1-3, and their actions (though not their words) are against #4. To be fair, Democrats do not fare any better with #4. They talk a good game - until they are in power. Then it's the same-old-same-old.

Republicans are NOT against #1.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...kground-checks

[Sparko]

Republicans are NOT against #1.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...kground-checks

Usually when they say "stricter gun control laws" they mean bans and restrictions on ownership though. Like making AR-15s illegal.