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    Some people's bookshelves are filled with all sorts of theological writings, yet they have never read the entire bible. They got caught up in the theology web of pedanticism and speculation. I am of the persuasion that those who are well versed in the bible -- those who simply read the bible -- have enough wisdom and insight to refrain from entertaining verbose theological writings, debates on predestination, eschatology, God's existence, etc. When it's all said and done we cannot even prove the basics of the Christian faith for the most part. I think it's important to keep that perspective.

    There is a time and place to contend for the faith but we are not first century Christian's living in their context. As Christian's we believe the bible is inspired but it's also wonderfully ancient and primitive -- ditto for it's context and human authors. Indulging in theology and apologetics won't provide much insight beyond what the bible has already provided. The next God debate won't provide you with anymore certainty, the next N. T. Wright book will lead to the next N. T. Wright book. Isn't there much wisdom in simply reading our bibles as we live in faith, hope, and love -- wherever that leads us?

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  • #2
    A lot of books help explain the context and society from which the Bible emerged and therefore can lead to a deeper and richer understanding of the text.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      A lot of books help explain the context and society from which the Bible emerged and therefore can lead to a deeper and richer understanding of the text.
      Exactly! And furthermore, it's important to know what it meant to the original audience. As Gordon D. Fee says in "How To Read The Bible For All It's Worth"


      And
      "What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer

      "... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        A lot of books help explain the context and society from which the Bible emerged and therefore can lead to a deeper and richer understanding of the text.
        Fair enough, and I don't dispute that, but I think we should be thoroughly familiar with the text of the bible -- having read the entire thing at least twice IMO -- before we undertake the often hazy process of contextualization.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Littlejoe View Post
          Exactly! And furthermore, it's important to know what it meant to the original audience. As Gordon D. Fee says in "How To Read The Bible For All It's Worth"


          And
          And yet informed interpretations abound. Uncertainty abounds. Mystery abounds. I say read the bible. Then read it again. Do what you will after that.

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          • #6
            I'm on my 27th read of the Bible
            I have a room full of books, some of which I read.

            Can I go to Heaven?
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              I'm on my 27th read of the Bible
              Love.

              I have a room full of books
              Love.

              some of which I read.
              Wise.

              Can I go to Heaven?
              You've got my vote.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
                Love.



                Love.



                Wise.



                You've got my vote.
                I fee so much better.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
                  My positions are unsupportable, and I know it.
                  Fixed that for you. Sheesh.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    I'm on my 27th read of the Bible
                    I have a room full of books, some of which I read.

                    Can I go to Heaven?
                    I've read it cover to cover (including all the begats which is where many people stall or just skim) somewhere around 7 or 8 times at least although it has been over a decade since I've done so. I've started doing it in response to a Bible study class that insisted that we read a few verses from the different books in it and discuss them which seemed to me like taking things out of context in a mix and match sort of way. That and my grandmother kind of inspired me to do it as she tried to read at least a chapter a night before going to sleep. Sometimes when she was real sleepy she'd only make it through a few verses though she'd still at least read some of it every night.
                    Last edited by rogue06; 12-03-2018, 05:32 AM.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      I've read it cover to cover (including all the begats which is where many people stall or just skim) somewhere around 7 or 8 times at least although it has been over a decade since I've done so. I've started doing it in response to a Bible study class that insisted that we read a few verses from the different books in it and discuss them which seemed to me like taking things out of context in a mix and match sort of way. That and my grandmother kind of inspired me to do it as she tried to read at least a chapter a night before going to sleep. Sometimes when she was real sleepy she'd only make it through a few verses though she'd still at least read some of it every night.
                      I have a confession to make.

                      Sometimes (OK, maybe usually) I skip the begats.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        I've read it cover to cover (including all the begats which is where many people stall or just skim) ...
                        OK, so I'll throw in my Proverbs reading plan.

                        In ADDITION to whatever Bible Reading program you may be utilizing, I like to add one chapter from Proverbs - whatever chapter the day of the month happens to be.

                        Today is the 3rd, so I read Proverbs 3.

                        I like this program, because if you forget, or skip for a while, you just look at the calendar and whatever day of the month it is, that's where you pick up.

                        (Yeah, I know, you don't always get to the end every month)
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          I'm on my 27th read of the Bible
                          I have a room full of books, some of which I read.

                          Can I go to Heaven?
                          For the lurker who may not detect the intended sarcasm, and because this is a crucially important point, I want to be clear that "reading the Bible" or "having" or "reading books" is not necessary for "going to Heaven".

                          It is only through acceptance of Jesus Christ as savior that we have hope in Eternity.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            I have a confession to make.

                            Sometimes (OK, maybe usually) I skip the begats.
                            You do have to plow through them and not let your eyes glaze over.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              For the lurker who may not detect the intended sarcasm, and because this is a crucially important point, I want to be clear that "reading the Bible" or "having" or "reading books" is not necessary for "going to Heaven".

                              It is only through acceptance of Jesus Christ as savior that we have hope in Eternity.
                              To quote somebody I love and trust: "EGGzactly!"

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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