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    Theology Web

    Some people's bookshelves are filled with all sorts of theological writings, yet they have never read the entire bible. They got caught up in the theology web of pedanticism and speculation. I am of the persuasion that those who are well versed in the bible -- those who simply read the bible -- have enough wisdom and insight to refrain from entertaining verbose theological writings, debates on predestination, eschatology, God's existence, etc. When it's all said and done we cannot even prove the basics of the Christian faith for the most part. I think it's important to keep that perspective.

    There is a time and place to contend for the faith but we are not first century Christian's living in their context. As Christian's we believe the bible is inspired but it's also wonderfully ancient and primitive -- ditto for it's context and human authors. Indulging in theology and apologetics won't provide much insight beyond what the bible has already provided. The next God debate won't provide you with anymore certainty, the next N. T. Wright book will lead to the next N. T. Wright book. Isn't there much wisdom in simply reading our bibles as we live in faith, hope, and love -- wherever that leads us?

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    A lot of books help explain the context and society from which the Bible emerged and therefore can lead to a deeper and richer understanding of the text.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    A lot of books help explain the context and society from which the Bible emerged and therefore can lead to a deeper and richer understanding of the text.
    Exactly! And furthermore, it's important to know what it meant to the original audience. As Gordon D. Fee says in "How To Read The Bible For All It's Worth"

    “A text cannot mean what it could never have meant for its original readers/hearers.”

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    “Whether one likes it or not, every reader is at the same time an interpreter. That is, most of us assume as we read that we also understand what we read. We also tend to think that our understanding is the same thing as the Holy Spirit’s or human author’s intent. However, we invariably bring to the text all that we are, with all of our experiences, culture, and prior understandings of words and ideas. Sometimes what we bring to the text, unintentionally to be sure, leads us astray, or else causes us to read all kinds of foreign ideas into the text.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    A lot of books help explain the context and society from which the Bible emerged and therefore can lead to a deeper and richer understanding of the text.
    Fair enough, and I don't dispute that, but I think we should be thoroughly familiar with the text of the bible -- having read the entire thing at least twice IMO -- before we undertake the often hazy process of contextualization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlejoe View Post
    Exactly! And furthermore, it's important to know what it meant to the original audience. As Gordon D. Fee says in "How To Read The Bible For All It's Worth"

    “A text cannot mean what it could never have meant for its original readers/hearers.”

    And
    “Whether one likes it or not, every reader is at the same time an interpreter. That is, most of us assume as we read that we also understand what we read. We also tend to think that our understanding is the same thing as the Holy Spirit’s or human author’s intent. However, we invariably bring to the text all that we are, with all of our experiences, culture, and prior understandings of words and ideas. Sometimes what we bring to the text, unintentionally to be sure, leads us astray, or else causes us to read all kinds of foreign ideas into the text.”
    And yet informed interpretations abound. Uncertainty abounds. Mystery abounds. I say read the bible. Then read it again. Do what you will after that.

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    I'm on my 27th read of the Bible
    I have a room full of books, some of which I read.

    Can I go to Heaven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I'm on my 27th read of the Bible
    Love.

    I have a room full of books
    Love.

    some of which I read.
    Wise.

    Can I go to Heaven?
    You've got my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrawly View Post
    Love.



    Love.



    Wise.



    You've got my vote.
    I fee so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrawly View Post
    My positions are unsupportable, and I know it.
    Fixed that for you. Sheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I'm on my 27th read of the Bible
    I have a room full of books, some of which I read.

    Can I go to Heaven?
    I've read it cover to cover (including all the begats which is where many people stall or just skim) somewhere around 7 or 8 times at least although it has been over a decade since I've done so. I've started doing it in response to a Bible study class that insisted that we read a few verses from the different books in it and discuss them which seemed to me like taking things out of context in a mix and match sort of way. That and my grandmother kind of inspired me to do it as she tried to read at least a chapter a night before going to sleep. Sometimes when she was real sleepy she'd only make it through a few verses though she'd still at least read some of it every night.
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