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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostBill Clinton was impeached for the felony crime of lying under oath (perjury) when he claimed, under oath, that he didn't have sex with Monica Lewinsky. Unless you have proof that Trump lied under oath about adulterous relationships, the comparison is irrelevant.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostNo, Trump didn't lie under oath, but he did lie just the same and we all know it. But that's not the crime that he is legally guilty of, the crime he is legally guilty of is using campaign funds to cover up the truth. Not much of a difference really, but both illegal, both crimes, both impeachable offences.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSo still no evidence of a Russian collusion to fix the election by Trump then?
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 12-10-2018, 07:56 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View PostThat simply is not true. As best I can tell what there is not yet a smoking gun that without a doubt makes Trump consciously and provably culpable in driving, planning, directing the collusion that occurred. I know that for many of you that may well be sufficient to 'exonerate' Trump. But that just isn't even close to reality.
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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In other news, it seems that Obama attempted to openly bribe Reverend Wright to lay low until after the election.
https://nypost.com/2012/05/13/the-br...ilence-wright/
Are there any liberals who think he should have been impeached?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAs best I can tell what there is not yet a smoking gun that without a doubt makes Hillary consciously and provably culpable in driving, planning, directing the trafficking of classified information on an unsecured private server that occurred. I know that for many of you that may well be sufficient to 'exonerate' Hillary. But that just isn't even close to reality.
Jim
*I was personally shocked at the lack of consequences to Hillary for her flagrant negligence as regards the email server. Nevertheless, I doesn't make me suddenly decide we should dismiss Trump being in bed with the Russians in his attempt to defeat Hillary in the election. And while Hillary's actions constitute negligence, they do not represent collusion with a foreign government over interests detrimental to our democracy.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIn other news, it seems that Obama attempted to openly bribe Reverend Wright to lay low until after the election.
https://nypost.com/2012/05/13/the-br...ilence-wright/
Are there any liberals who think he should have been impeached?
https://theweek.com/articles/475581/...eremiah-wright
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIn other news, it seems that Obama attempted to openly bribe Reverend Wright to lay low until after the election.
https://nypost.com/2012/05/13/the-br...ilence-wright/
Are there any liberals who think he should have been impeached?
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostEdward Klein is a hack and the NY Post is a rag. There is absolutely no evidence that any of that story is true and you can bet your bottom dollar that if there was republicans would have gone after Obama for it.
https://theweek.com/articles/475581/...eremiah-wrightSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View PostIt is clear the Russians were in fact in a tit-for-tat arrangement with at least some of the people close to Trump to help in whatever ways they could to get Trump elected.
Even the virulently anti-Trump members of the Senate Intelligence Committee have said there is not a shred of evidence that Russia preferred one candidate or party over the other.
Senator Mark Warner: "This is one where there is no Democratic or Republican answer since clearly the goal of our adversaries was not to favor one party over the other. It was to wreak havoc and split divisions."
Senator Richard Burr: "I can say as it relates to the Senate Intelligence Committee investigation that we have no hard evidence of collusion."Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View PostReally. So not to put too fine a point on it, You would stoop so low as to try to justify Trump's collusion with the Russians? Or Trump's payoff to Stormy Daniels?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI "justify it" only in the sense that 1) There is no evidence that Trump illegally conspired with Russia to swing the election; and 2) Trump making a non-disclosure arrangement with Stormy Daniels violated no laws.
2) There are many that believe you are incorrect about the legality of the Stormy Daniels payoff. And I am not so foolish as to ignore the fact there are many different professional opinions on that issue right now.
The reality is, again, that your response is irrelevant as regards my post. Your Obama reference is nothing more than an attempt to justify giving Trump a pass on his own actions.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostA nice theory except for one, insignificant problem: there's no evidence for it.
Even the virulently anti-Trump members of the Senate Intelligence Committee have said there is not a shred of evidence that Russia preferred one candidate or party over the other.
Senator Mark Warner: "This is one where there is no Democratic or Republican answer since clearly the goal of our adversaries was not to favor one party over the other. It was to wreak havoc and split divisions."
Senator Richard Burr: "I can say as it relates to the Senate Intelligence Committee investigation that we have no hard evidence of collusion."
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...on-2016-722486
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.a13e6c1cd841
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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