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Mueller investigation conludes that Trump is guilty!
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
It's pretty obvious to any rational person that Cohen plead guilty to a crime he didn't commit in order to get a lighter sentence for the crimes he did commit.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostTrump News channel.
Obama Campaign Fined Big for Hiding Donors, Keeping Illegal Donations
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...egal-donationsAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostAs with Manafort, Mueller has measured what Cohen has to say against other sources, not just taken his statements at face-value as you seem to imply.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostAs with Manafort, Mueller has measured what Cohen has to say against other sources, not just taken his statements at face-value as you seem to imply.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by seer View PostWere you upset Jim about this?
Obama Campaign Fined Big for Hiding Donors, Keeping Illegal Donations
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...egal-donations
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Originally posted by JimL View PostMore whataboutism, seer? For one thing this was the campaign, not Obama himself and it was 1.9 million out of 750 million that was apparently donated and reported improperly and it was investigated and the campaign was fined for it. So what's your beef?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThe Mueller probe as set out in the Cohen document today alleges that Trump is guilty of 2 federal crimes, tax fraud and campaign finance crimes, and goes on to say that the campaign was in contact with high ranking Russians offering "political synergy" or in other words collusion with themselves and the Trump campaign in the election against Hillary. They offered this help to Cohen during the negotiations regarding the Trump Tower Moscow deal that would, according to the investigation, have been enormously lucrative, nettting hundreds of millions of dollars for the Trump Organization.
The defendant also provided information about attempts by other Russian nationals to reach the campaign. For example, in or around November 2015, Cohen received the contact information for, and spoke with, a Russian national who claimed to be a “trusted person” in the Russian Federation who could offer the campaign “political synergy” and “synergy on a government level.” The defendant recalled that this person repeatedly proposed a meeting between Individual 1 and the President of Russia. The person told Cohen that such a meeting could have a “phenomenal” impact “not only in political but in a business dimension as well,” referring to the Moscow Project, because there is “no bigger warranty in any project than consent of [the President of Russia].” Cohen, however, did not follow up on this invitation.
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Originally posted by seer View PostFirst, you don't know what Obama knew or not, second, they actually purposely hid donations. Third, if Trump actually did use or knew, campaign monies were used to pay these two women then you would have no problem if he only had to pay a fine - correct?
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post...there is direct evidence of Trump directing his consiglieri to pay off his mistresses to keep there mouths shut.
(And what the heck is a "consiglieri" anyway?)Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostTrump may or may not have been involved in the tax/campaign finance crimes, but in regards to alleged Russian collusion... that's not what the document(s) said. The article you link to throws out the phrase "political synergy" but let's look at that in context of the actual document, which your article unhelpfully doesn't link to:
The defendant also provided information about attempts by other Russian nationals to reach the campaign. For example, in or around November 2015, Cohen received the contact information for, and spoke with, a Russian national who claimed to be a “trusted person” in the Russian Federation who could offer the campaign “political synergy” and “synergy on a government level.” The defendant recalled that this person repeatedly proposed a meeting between Individual 1 and the President of Russia. The person told Cohen that such a meeting could have a “phenomenal” impact “not only in political but in a business dimension as well,” referring to the Moscow Project, because there is “no bigger warranty in any project than consent of [the President of Russia].” Cohen, however, did not follow up on this invitation.
But again, the point that I made in the OP is that we now have a known criminal in the White House, a President that should he have lost the election, would be going to prison soon along with his consiglieri. The only thing saving him now, is the fact that he won.Last edited by JimL; 12-09-2018, 08:34 PM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWhat we know Trump is guilty of, according to the sentencing document, is tax fraud and campaign finance crimes. There is much evidence that he, his campaign, is also guilty of collusion, but that won't come out in detail until the Mueller probe has ended. Btw, Trump also lied about his adulterous relationships. Do you remember what Clinton was impeached for? Obviously republicans in the Senate will not impeach Trump according to the same standards that they impeached Clinton, and so we will wait for the Mueller report to come out and give them no choice but to impeach or show themselves to the voters to be bigger hypocrites than we already know them to be.
But again, the point that I made in the OP is that we now have a known criminal in the White House, a President that should he have lost the election, would be going to prison soon along with his consiglieri. The only thing saving him now, is the fact that he won."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostLegal fail, he is being accused, not sentenced.
Likewise, where’s the evidence that Trump works for Putin that was supposed to be the crime to start with?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostBtw, Trump also lied about his adulterous relationships. Do you remember what Clinton was impeached for?
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