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    Senate passes sweeping criminal justice reform bill

    WASHINGTON — The Senate passed a huge criminal law reform bill on Tuesday night, seizing on bipartisan support for the broadest set of changes to federal crime statutes in a generation.

    A rare coalition of conservatives, liberals, activists, prosecutors and defense attorneys — spanning the political spectrum — pushed senators to pass the "First Step Act" by a final vote of 87-12.

    The House is expected to take up the Senate version of the bill at a later date. The House passed a similar version of the bill back in May by a wide margin, 360-59.

    President Donald Trump announced in November that he backs the legislation.

    Supporters of the bill claim that changes passed in the Senate would make America's criminal justice system fairer, reduce overcrowding and save taxpayer dollars — much to the benefit of drug and non-violent offenders.

    The bill would not affect state prisons. It only covers federal prisoners, who make up less than 10 percent of America's prison population.

    Trump quickly jumped on Twitter to hail the bill’s passage, and said "America is the greatest Country in the world and my job is to fight for ALL citizens, even those who have made mistakes."

    "This will keep our communities safer, and provide hope and a second chance, to those who earn it. In addition to everything else, billions of dollars will be saved. I look forward to signing this into law!” the president tweeted.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    Awesome!

    What it does:

    The bill, known as the First Step Act, will take modest steps to alter the federal criminal justice system and ease very punitive prison sentences at the federal level. It would affect only the federal system — which, with about 181,000 imprisoned people, holds a small but significant fraction of the US jail and prison population of 2.1 million.

    Essentially, the bill will allow thousands of people to earn an earlier release from prison and could cut many more prison sentences in the future...

    Here are the major provisions of the First Step Act:

    * ...reduced the disparity between crack cocaine and powder cocaine sentences at the federal level

    * ...several steps to ease mandatory minimum sentences under federal law... ease a “three strikes” rule... All of these changes would lead to shorter prison sentences in the future.

    * ...increase “good time credits” that inmates can earn.

    * ...allow inmates to get “earned time credits” by participating in more vocational and rehabilitative programs.

    And it would make other changes aimed at improving conditions in prisons...

    Nothing in the legislation is that groundbreaking, particularly compared to the state-level reforms that have passed in recent years, from reduced prison sentences across the board to the defelonization of drug offenses to marijuana legalization. That’s one reason the bill is dubbed a “first step.”
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Awesome!

      What it does:

      The bill, known as the First Step Act, will take modest steps to alter the federal criminal justice system and ease very punitive prison sentences at the federal level. It would affect only the federal system — which, with about 181,000 imprisoned people, holds a small but significant fraction of the US jail and prison population of 2.1 million.

      Essentially, the bill will allow thousands of people to earn an earlier release from prison and could cut many more prison sentences in the future...

      Here are the major provisions of the First Step Act:

      * ...reduced the disparity between crack cocaine and powder cocaine sentences at the federal level

      * ...several steps to ease mandatory minimum sentences under federal law... ease a “three strikes” rule... All of these changes would lead to shorter prison sentences in the future.

      * ...increase “good time credits” that inmates can earn.

      * ...allow inmates to get “earned time credits” by participating in more vocational and rehabilitative programs.

      And it would make other changes aimed at improving conditions in prisons...

      Nothing in the legislation is that groundbreaking, particularly compared to the state-level reforms that have passed in recent years, from reduced prison sentences across the board to the defelonization of drug offenses to marijuana legalization. That’s one reason the bill is dubbed a “first step.”
      Wait... I posted something with which you AGREE?!?!?!?!
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        87-12 vote. So bipartisanship isn't completely dead.

        I'm always still in trouble again

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Wait... I posted something with which you AGREE?!?!?!?!
          You agree with lighter sentences?

          What happened to the "tough on crime" conservative mantra?
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          • #6
            Well if Starlight thinks it is awesome it must be the Prison Apocalypse. We are all doomed.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Wait... I posted something with which you AGREE?!?!?!?!
              He is just one of those Trump supporters.

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              • #8
                They need to figure out why the recidivism rate is so high
                That's what
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  You agree with lighter sentences?
                  I agree with a curb on "mandatory sentencing" - keeping a judge from using discretion based on individual cases.

                  What happened to the "tough on crime" conservative mantra?
                  I believe violent crime should be aggressively prosecuted, but I also believe that certain "containment" practices produce more violent criminals.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    87-12 vote. So bipartisanship isn't completely dead.
                    Yeah, I think there's a lot of common sense in this bill.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                      They need to figure out why the recidivism rate is so high
                      Our local sheriff has pretty much cordoned his jail (86 beds) into two separate sections. If you're a first time offender, or somebody not convicted of violent crime, he puts you in the "I'm just here to do my time, so please leave me alone" section. If you're there to be a tough guy, and get gang tattoos and 'play the thug', he puts you in "general population". But you have a choice when you go in.

                      He's actually working under a federal grant to study the recidivism rates of each unit.

                      To your point, though, our previous sheriff (good friend who died from cancer) told me shortly before he passed "I'm tired of arresting the grandchildren of people I arrested 40 years ago".
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        There are different types of criminals.

                        Some are just people who end up doing something wrong and getting caught. Maybe they are normally honest people who got greedy or desperate and did something wrong. They usually learn their lesson and don't do it again.

                        Some are just people who end up hooked on drugs and get caught and arrested. Unless you can get them to want to get clean, they will most likely go right back to being addicted when let go.

                        Some are just people who LIKE to be criminals. They don't want a regular job, they want to "get rich" - by selling drugs, robbing people or businesses, have anger issues and like getting into fights, joining gangs, or whatever. Unless something really hits them in the heart, like finding Jesus, they are not going to change because they like being crooks.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          There are different types of criminals.

                          Some are just people who end up doing something wrong and getting caught. Maybe they are normally honest people who got greedy or desperate and did something wrong. They usually learn their lesson and don't do it again.

                          Some are just people who end up hooked on drugs and get caught and arrested. Unless you can get them to want to get clean, they will most likely go right back to being addicted when let go.

                          Some are just people who LIKE to be criminals. They don't want a regular job, they want to "get rich" - by selling drugs, robbing people or businesses, have anger issues and like getting into fights, joining gangs, or whatever. Unless something really hits them in the heart, like finding Jesus, they are not going to change because they like being crooks.
                          Yes, and if the first category individual gets locked up with the third category individual, which one is going to be a greater influence on the other?
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Yes, and if the first category individual gets locked up with the third category individual, which one is going to be a greater influence on the other?
                            Jail isn't a great place to be, but you get free food, free place to sleep out of the elements, free clothing, free cable TV, don't have to work....

                            Beats being on the streets. Some people quite deliberately break the law upon getting released so they can go back. Sometime I suspect that our jail population is so high mostly because it's not such a bad place to be compared to other parts of the world.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                              Jail isn't a great place to be, but you get free food, free place to sleep out of the elements, free clothing, free cable TV, don't have to work....

                              Beats being on the streets. Some people quite deliberately break the law upon getting released so they can go back. Sometime I suspect that our jail population is so high mostly because it's not such a bad place to be compared to other parts of the world.
                              Pink underwear, tents, balogna sandwiches...
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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