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    Quote Originally Posted by Same Hakeem View Post
    Because Jesus cannot be GOD and be with God as per John 1:2 which reads "He (Jesus) was with God in the beginning"
    while ignoring the fact it also says he was God.

    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. 2 The Word was with God in the beginning. 3 All things were created by him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    while ignoring the fact it also says he was God.

    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. 2 The Word was with God in the beginning. 3 All things were created by him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created.
    Right, and it even excludes Jesus from the category of created beings, since it explicitly tells us that every single created thing was created through the Word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    Right, and it even excludes Jesus from the category of created beings, since it explicitly tells us that every single created thing was created through the Word.
    Hakeem has to cherry pick his bible quotes and ignore the entirety of the bible in order to support his heretical views. I am sure he will wait a while then repeat the same thing again. It's all he has.

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    Jesus CANNOT BE GOD and be WITH God in John 1:2. Otherwise, this requires having two GODS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Same Hakeem View Post
    Jesus CANNOT BE GOD and be WITH God in John 1:2. Otherwise, this requires having two GODS.
    Nuh uh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Same Hakeem View Post
    Jesus CANNOT BE GOD and be WITH God in John 1:2. Otherwise, this requires having two GODS.
    Or you could have two persons who are one GOD! Or three if you add in the Holy Spirit who is also referred to as a person and as God! We should come up with some term for that. Three persons, One God. Hmm, Tri-Unity? No! I got it! Trinity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Or you could have two persons who are one GOD! Or three if you add in the Holy Spirit who is also referred to as a person and as God! We should come up with some term for that. Three persons, One God. Hmm, Tri-Unity? No! I got it! Trinity!
    Saying "you could have two persons who are one GOD" is wrong because Jesus is with God in the beginning as in John 1:2 then Jesus CANNOT BE GOD or otherwise we have more than one God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Same Hakeem View Post
    Saying "you could have two persons who are one GOD" is wrong because Jesus is with God in the beginning as in John 1:2 then Jesus CANNOT BE GOD or otherwise we have more than one God.
    God in John 1:2 is used to refer to the Person of the Trinity known as the Father, not to the Godhood in it's entirety. But because the Father is fully God it's still proper to call Him God. And your assertion that Jesus "CANNOT BE GOD" is patently false, since John explicitly calls the Word (and Jesus is the Word) God in John 1:1.

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