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    As I said - the scriptures show clearly that God is triune, and show how that fact has its outworking.

    Your objection fails to take into account the Jesus of Nazareth was God-become-man. Philippians 2:6 and John 1 give basic accounts of that fact, but they are not the only references.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabibito View Post
    As I said - the scriptures show clearly that God is triune, and show how that fact has its outworking.

    Your objection fails to take into account the Jesus of Nazareth was God-become-man. Philippians 2:6 and John 1 give basic accounts of that fact, but they are not the only references.
    Phil 2 and John 1 have Jesus called "GOD" or "in the form of God", which are common in the Bible where figures are called GODS as in Psalm 82:6.

    What makes one God is if such one meets the qualities of God given in the Bible. God has certain qualities in the Bible. For example, God is one; "there is no God but one" in 1 Corinthians 8:4. Colossians 3:1 says "Christ sits at the right hand of God." So if "God" Jesus sits at the right hand of God in Colossians 3:1, there must be more than one God; otherwise, Jesus is not God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Same Hakeem View Post
    Phil 2 and John 1 have Jesus called "GOD" or "in the form of God", which are common in the Bible where figures are called GODS as in Psalm 82:6.
    The phrase "in the form of God" in Philippians 2:6 is in no way analogous to the term "gods" in Psalm 82:6. Being in the form of God implies equality with God, as the verse goes on to explain, while the same cannot be same for the "gods" in Psalm 82:6.

    Furthermore, in Romans 10 Paul ascribes the divine name YHWH to Jesus, and sets forth as a condition for salvation to confess Jesus as Lord, where is a substitute for the tetragrammaton:

    Scripture Verse: Romans 10:9-13


    9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

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    "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved" is a citation from Joel 2:32, where Lord is a substitute for the tetragrammaton. In other words, and as I've already mentioned above, Paul is claiming that Jesus is none other than YHWH in human form.


    Scripture Verse: Romans 10:9-13


    What makes one God is if such one meets the qualities of God given in the Bible. God has certain qualities in the Bible. For example, God is one; "there is no God but one" in 1 Corinthians 8:4. Colossians 3:1 says "Christ sits at the right hand of God." So if "God" Jesus sits at the right hand of God in Colossians 3:1, there must be more than one God; otherwise, Jesus is not God.

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    The term God is used in different senses in 1 Cor 8:4 and Col 3:1. In the former it's speaking of God as a being, while in the latter it's speaking about the person of God the Father, i.e it's used as a title. Christianity teaches that there are three distinct Persons who are all perfectly united in one divine being/essence. So there is one being, God, but three Persons sharing fully in the divine essence, who are all properly called God.

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