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  • Shutdown Over Border Security?

    Good? Bad?

    Shutdown talks collapse: Trump won't sign spending bill, Paul Ryan says

    President Donald Trump will not sign a Senate-passed spending bill to avoid a partial government shutdown, House Speaker Paul Ryan said Thursday after meeting with the president.

    "We just had a very long, productive meeting with the president," the Wisconsin Republican said. "The president informed us that he will not sign the bill that came up from the Senate last evening because of his legitimate concerns for border security."

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/20/ryan...-shutdown.html
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    The government could "shutdown" for a month, and it would have zero impact on the life of the average US citizen.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      The government could "shutdown" for a month, and it would have zero impact on the life of the average US citizen.
      But I'd not get paid once my leave was burned through.
      That's what
      - She

      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
      - Stephen R. Donaldson

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      • #4
        Originally posted by seer View Post
        Good? Bad?
        Bad. But they are losing a giant opportunity to allow the Dems to explain why they refuse to secure the border. "Your wall is dumb" isn't a plan for better security at the border.
        That's what
        - She

        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
        - Stephen R. Donaldson

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        • #5
          They need to pass the border wall funding now while the Republicans are still in charge. No chance in hell next year.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            They need to pass the border wall funding now while the Republicans are still in charge. No chance in hell next year.
            yep...
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #7
              Originally posted by seer View Post
              yep...
              What's holding them back?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                What's holding them back?
                Rinos?
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  What's holding them back?
                  Fear of not wanting to be the ones to keep the "brown people" out. The left has framed it as a race issue when it simply isn't.
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                  - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                    Fear of not wanting to be the ones to keep the "brown people" out. The left has framed it as a race issue when it simply isn't.
                    This is why I was not even upset when the democrats took over the house again. The republicans are sissies and afraid to do their jobs. They haven't done squat the entire time they had the power to do so.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      What's holding them back?
                      Common sense.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                        Common sense.
                        How so? Walls work. And they are needed. Why oppose border security measures that have proven track records of success?
                        That's what
                        - She

                        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                        - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                          How so? Walls work. And they are needed.
                          You can buy a ticket and land with a plane. Done.

                          I see no issue with border control, but a wall is symbolic politics.

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                          • #14
                            Someone started a gofundme for the wall and it has gotten over 6 million in a few days.

                            https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              Someone started a gofundme for the wall and it has gotten over 6 million in a few days.

                              https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall
                              Enough to build a single mile or two of one of the cheaper versions. Or a hundred feet of the fourty foot tall, solid concrete walls many people imagine will ever be built there.

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