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Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWhat gives you reason to ask?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI do. I was just pointing out why the democrats aren't going to win in a game of chicken.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostIt will be interesting to see how this ultimately works out. So far - indications are that Trump is losing the PR war. However, as I have previously noted, he is a media savant. So...
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIf he can find a way to give in, and still look like a hero, then he may do so. Otherwise the democrats should be prepared to give him what he wants.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIf he can find a way to give in, and still look like a hero, then he may do so. Otherwise the democrats should be prepared to give him what he wants.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostBecause...? (not to mention - I doubt anyone knows what he really wants.)Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHe wants $5.7 B for a wall. It's a glaringly obvious sticking point.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostWe know about the $ figure, OBP. We just don't really know what it is going to be spent on. A wall where? What kind? Supplemented by what? What are both the long-term and short-term costs associated with it. What is the long-term and short-term plan. Until there is some additional information on which a decision ("yes - we'll fund that" or "no - we won't fund that") can be based - I am in favor of the Democrats standing their ground. I'm not in favor of buying a pig in a poke. Right now - it appears that the majority of Americans have that POV. I realize a majority of Republicans do not.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostWe know about the $ figure, OBP. We just don't really know what it is going to be spent on. A wall where? What kind? Supplemented by what? What are both the long-term and short-term costs associated with it. What is the long-term and short-term plan. Until there is some additional information on which a decision ("yes - we'll fund that" or "no - we won't fund that") can be based - I am in favor of the Democrats standing their ground. I'm not in favor of buying a pig in a poke. Right now - it appears that the majority of Americans have that POV. I realize a majority of Republicans do not.
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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Dang... things got real...
Trump's letter to Pelosi today...
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rea...ghanistan-trip
Burn...
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSince when has this sort of things ever worried liberals, the party of "But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it"?
From my perspective - in this era of polarization - both parties are guilty of this behavior.
But I don't make my decisions on the basis of what one party or another says or does. So long as Trump doesn't provide me with a business case for his demand - my vote is "no." (not that anyone is counting my hand - mind you).The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostDang... things got real...
Trump's letter to Pelosi today...
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rea...ghanistan-trip
Burn...
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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