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  • #91
    Ginsburg cancels two upcoming speaking engagements.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...g-engagements/

    Rumor is that she's battling pneumonia, which is certainly plausible, but of course, there is no official confirmation. Last official word from over a week ago is that her recovery is "on track".
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Ginsburg cancels two upcoming speaking engagements.

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...g-engagements/

      Rumor is that she's battling pneumonia, which is certainly plausible, but of course, there is no official confirmation. Last official word from over a week ago is that her recovery is "on track".
      A not so optimistic view:

      Source: THE MEDIA IS FURIOUSLY SPINNING THE STATE OF RUTH BADER GINSBURG’S HEALTH


      After Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s recent hospitalization and surgery to remove “two cancerous nodules” from her lung, the media can’t get their stories straight about her health, or lack thereof.

      Is this new lung cancer, on top of her history of pancreas and colon cancer? Or is it metastatic cancer from elsewhere in her body? Is she healthy and cancer free or does she have stage four cancer, with an extremely poor prognosis? Can she resume her duties as a Supreme Court justice, or will she be soon retiring? Or worse?

      Members of the media are in lockstep, pushing the narrative that Justice Ginsburg is in great health. Why, she’s almost ready to resume her famous RBG workout that “nearly broke” a Politico reporter young enough to be Ginsburg’s grandson.

      CNN reported the official statement from the Supreme Court, “Post-surgery evaluation indicates no evidence of remaining disease, and no further treatment is required.”

      I wonder if CNN’s ace reporter Jim Acosta took a walk next to Ginsburg’s home, and — not observing any cancer near him — confirmed that Ginsburg was cancer free, as he did strolling along a border fence last week?

      The statement is curious, however. As a physician myself, I am acutely aware of medical wording and nuance. With medical malpractice attorneys hiding behind every corner, physicians are careful how they create medical statements, especially when there is little absolute certainty in the medical world.

      “No evidence of remaining disease” could simply mean that they removed the two cancerous nodules they found on a lung scan after her recent fall. If these nodules represent cancer that spread from her previous colon or pancreas cancer, the doctors removed what they found in her lungs.

      This doesn’t speak for cancer that might have spread to her liver, brain or bones.

      “No further treatment is required” might imply that she is cancer free. It could also suggest the opposite, that she has metastatic cancer that is no longer treatable, other than hospice care, and that further treatment is futile at this point, hence not required.

      The media were giddy with excitement that the liberal lion of the court was ready to get back to her job of thwarting President Trump. TMZ caught a glimpse of her, “emerging for the first time” from her Washington, D.C., apartment. CBS reported that her recovery is “on track” with “no sign of remaining cancer.”

      Fox News echoed the others by saying her recovery was “on track”, although they curiously described her recent surgery as, “early-stage lung cancer surgery.” Not so if it was metastatic cancer, meaning stage four and quite advanced.

      One journalistic fanboy posed a question, “Asking readers if they would give up time off their own lives to allow their favorite Supreme Court justice to live longer.” He added, “If just 10,000 people did this, it would add 27 productive years to her life.”

      How would he react if there was a similar push to donate lives to Clarence Thomas or Sam Alito, giving them another quarter-century on the Supreme Court?

      The rumors swirl over Ginsburg’s health, but the White House may not be buying the media spin. “The Trump team began early groundwork for another potential confirmation battle,” according to Politico.

      The latest concern is that Justice Ginsburg could develop pneumonia, a common complication of lung surgery, particularly in the elderly and infirm. Pneumonia is often called “the old man’s friend” not to be sexist but because, “left untreated, the sufferer often lapses into a state of reduced consciousness, slipping peacefully away in their sleep, giving a dignified end to a period of often considerable suffering.”

      Big media is happy to ignore reality staring them right in the face, whether the consequences of an open border or the health of their favorite Supreme Court justice. They will spin their stories furiously to deny the obvious. Given Justice Ginsburg’s failing health, there must be panic in D.C. that can’t be spun away with creative journalism.


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      I think the take away from all this is very few know how she is doing but there is a lot of speculation.

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      • #93
        Would they bother removing the nodules if her cancer had metastasized? I thought at that point they typically switch to palliative care.
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        • #94
          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          Would they bother removing the nodules if her cancer had metastasized? I thought at that point they typically switch to palliative care.
          It depends. Every case is different, and there's no such thing as "one size fits all" medical care.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • #95
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            Would they bother removing the nodules if her cancer had metastasized? I thought at that point they typically switch to palliative care.
            It would likely depend on whether they noticed it before or after removing the nodules

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #96
              Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette

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              • #97
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Right now there is a growing "Cult of Ginsburg" on the left, what with multiple Hollywood fawning movies, the CNN documentary about her and the like. I wonder if that feeling of adoration and veneration might turn to anger if her failing health allows Trump to nominate her replacement. Going from liberal darling and heroine to detested pariah. The fact that the far left Mother Jones is bringing this up indicates it is indeed possible.

                Source: What the Cult of Ruth Bader Ginsburg Got Wrong


                Fans defended her choice not to retire under President Obama. Now it may be too late.


                On the Basis of Sex, a feature film on the pioneering legal work of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, is due to roll out in theaters nationwide on Christmas Day. With Felicity Jones’ portrayal of Ginsburg as a hot, young ACLU lawyer, the canonization of “Notorious RGB” will be officially complete. The 85-year-old justice’s celebrity status as a badass feminist has never been higher. CNN, which earlier this year produced a Ginsburg documentary titled RBG, has declared her the “face of the resistance” against President Donald Trump’s agenda, and a new Ginsburg biography was published in October to coincide with the 25th anniversary of her confirmation. A retail store opened recently in Washington, DC, stocked almost exclusively with RBG merch: yoga mats, water bottles, T-shirts, action figures, magnets, and pins designed to look like Ginsburg’s lace “dissent collar.” The store is called The Outrage.

                But no amount of swag or hagiography can obscure the fact that, while Ginsburg is responsible for a great number of landmark legal decisions, her legacy may be sorely tarnished by one truly terrible one: refusing to retire when President Barack Obama could have named her replacement. That decision came into stark relief this month when Ginsburg fell and broke three ribs—and half of the nation took a collective gasp. Women took to Twitter to offer the justice a rib.

                Irin Carmon, a co-author of Ginsburg fan-book The Notorious RBG who is as responsible as anyone else for the contemporary Cult of Ginsburg, encouraged devotees not to freak out. Their hero is resilient, indestructible even, Carmon insisted. Ginsburg has survived cancer—twice!—and still has never missed a day on the bench. “I am not RBG’s doctor, but I am one of her biographers, here to testify to her resilience,” Carmon wrote in The Cut. To reinforce her point, Carmon interviewed Bryant Johnson, Ginsburg’s longtime personal trainer, who said, “To all the stressed-out people in America, remember that the justice is TAN. Now, I always use that acronym: TAN. She’s tough as nails. You think three ribs are going to stop Justice?”

                But Carmon and others who’ve helped turn Ginsburg into a pop-culture icon are deluding themselves. Ginsburg is a mere mortal. Falling down is the leading cause of accidental death in people over age 85. The actuarial table is not in her favor. There’s a real possibility Ginsburg will not outlast the Trump administration or live long enough for a Democrat to replace her. The situation today is one many liberal lawyers feared years ago and worked hard to avert. But the feisty justice rebuffed them all, a decision that makes all the hero worship hard for some of us to stomach.

                The calls for Ginsburg to step down began in 2011 when Randall Kennedy, a Harvard law professor and former clerk to the late Thurgood Marshall, wrote a piece in The New Republic gently urging Ginsburg, then 78, to retire while Obama was in office. (He had suggested the same of Justice Stephen Breyer, now 80.) Kennedy was publicly airing private concerns among Democrats that it could be Ginsburg’s last chance to be replaced by a Democrat. “Justices Ginsburg and Breyer have enriched the nation with long, productive, admirable careers,” he wrote. “Those, like me, who admire their service might find it hard to hope that they will soon leave the Court—but service comes in many forms, including making way for others.”

                Kennedy held up his old boss as a cautionary tale. Marshall’s health problems forced him to retire during the administration of George H.W. Bush, who replaced the legendary civil rights lawyer with Clarence Thomas, a conservative ideologue who has spent his 27 years on the bench working to unravel virtually everything Marshall fought for. “[I]f Justice Ginsburg departs the Supreme Court with a Republican in the White House,” Kennedy wrote, “it is probable that the female Thurgood Marshall will be replaced by a female Clarence Thomas.”

                Ginsburg declined the advice and might well have used the line deployed by Felicity Jones in a scene from On the Basis of Sex, wherein the young Ginsburg tells the ACLU’s legal director: “You don’t get to tell me when to quit.”

                After Obama’s 2012 reelection, the Ginsburg retirement calls came with a new urgency. In December 2013, the National Journal ran a piece titled, Justice Ginsburg: Resign Already!, in which writer James Oliphant observed that the passage of Obamacare would likely hand Senate control to the Republicans in 2014, thus preventing Obama from naming a Ginsburg successor. His concerns were echoed by prominent liberal legal scholars, notably Erwin Chemerinsky, now dean of the University of California-Berkeley law school, who wrote in early 2014 in the Los Angeles Times, “I do not minimize how hard it will be for Justice Ginsburg to step down from a job that she loves and has done so well since 1993. But the best way for her to advance all the things she has spent her life working for is to ensure that a Democratic president picks her successor.”





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                She's even in the new Lego 2 movie (in the trailer, no less).
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                • #98
                  She's BAAAAAAaaaaaaaaack!!!!!
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    This quote caught my eye: "Supporters are hoping she will be able to remain on the court until a Democrat wins the White House and is able to name her successor."

                    Talk about an understatement. I personally know atheists who are praying for this!
                    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post


                      Half-Human, Half-Robot Justice Enters Supreme Court, Introduces Self As Ruth Bader Gins-Borg

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                      • OK - now THAT's funny...
                        The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                        I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                        • Source: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Treated Again For Cancer


                          Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has just completed three weeks of radiation treatment at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York, the U.S. Supreme Court disclosed Friday.

                          The radiation therapy, conducted on an outpatient basis, began Aug. 5, shortly after a localized cancerous tumor was discovered on Ginsburg's pancreas. The treatment included the insertion of a stent in Ginsburg's bile duct, according to a statement issued by the court.

                          Doctors at Sloan Kettering said further tests showed no evidence of disease elsewhere in the body. The treatment comes just months after Ginsburg was operated on for lung cancer last December. The 86-year-old justice has been treated for cancer in various forms over the past 20 years.

                          "Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg today completed a three-week course of stereotactic ablative radiation therapy at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York City," a statement from the Supreme Court read. "The focused radiation treatment began on August 5 and was administered on an outpatient basis to treat a tumor on her pancreas. The abnormality was first detected after a routine blood test in early July, and a biopsy performed on July 31 at Sloan Kettering confirmed a localized malignant tumor.

                          "As part of her treatment, a bile duct stent was placed. The Justice tolerated treatment well. She cancelled her annual summer visit to Santa Fe, but has otherwise maintained an active schedule. The tumor was treated definitively and there is no evidence of disease elsewhere in the body. Justice Ginsburg will continue to have periodic blood tests and scans. No further treatment is needed at this time."

                          The Supreme Court's statement refers to a "stereotactic ablative radiation." Dr. Timothy Cannon, a gastrointestinal oncology specialist at Inova Schar Cancer Institute in Virginia who was not involved in Ginsburg's treatment, said, "That is the cutting-edge new cancer treatment, but it is not a cure for a pancreatic mass."

                          The statement from the court does not say what type of tumor it is. "The mystery is what kind of cancer this is," Cannon said. "Is it a slow-growing metastases of her lung cancer? Is it a recurrence of her pancreatic cancer from 10 years ago or is it a new cancer in someone predisposed to getting cancer?"

                          As he left for the G-7 meeting in France, President Trump said of the justice, "Our thoughts and prayers are with her. We wish her well. She's strong, she's tough. She's pulled through a lot."



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                          Ginsburg has been diagnosed with cancer three times previously, colon cancer in 1999, pancreatic cancer in 2009 and lung cancer in 2018 and now pancreatic cancer again this year.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                            This quote caught my eye: "Supporters are hoping she will be able to remain on the court until a Democrat wins the White House and is able to name her successor."
                            I really doubt she can last another 6 years.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • I have no doubt it was her plan to retire when Hillary become president. Now it seems she's refusing to retire purely out of spite for Trump. But honestly, the woman has no business making judicial decisions. Anybody who has watched any of her interviews from the past couple of years knows that the woman is barely coherent and can't even speak a whole sentence without causing one to wonder if she's nodded off between words. She makes a good case for scenarios that should trigger the mandatory retirement of Supreme Court justices.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                I have no doubt it was her plan to retire when Hillary become president. Now it seems she's refusing to retire purely out of spite for Trump. But honestly, the woman has no business making judicial decisions. Anybody who has watched any of her interviews from the past couple of years knows that the woman is barely coherent and can't even speak a whole sentence without causing one to wonder if she's nodded off between words. She makes a good case for scenarios that should trigger the mandatory retirement of Supreme Court justices.
                                Apparently she has told people that she wants to be on the Supreme Court for as long as former Justice John Paul Stevens, who served for 35 years. She has 9 years to go.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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