David Axelrod, Senior Advisor to Obama and later his Senior Strategist for Obama's re-election campaign had this up in less than hour after it was announced that Ginsburg was again being treated for pancreatic cancer:
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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI have no doubt it was her plan to retire when Hillary become president. Now it seems she's refusing to retire purely out of spite for Trump. But honestly, the woman has no business making judicial decisions. Anybody who has watched any of her interviews from the past couple of years knows that the woman is barely coherent and can't even speak a whole sentence without causing one to wonder if she's nodded off between words. She makes a good case for scenarios that should trigger the mandatory retirement of Supreme Court justices.
https://www.pbs.org/video/justice-ru...sation-jzwgyq/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKEf3CRPlcw
Quick search and I found these interviews from 2019, two of them almost an hour long. She is clearly an older woman who is physically increasingly limited. I have found (so far) nothing in here that suggests there is anything wrong with her mind or her wit.
I invite people to watch the videos and form their own conclusion.
ETA: note, I have not watched both long interviews in their entirety - simply randomly jumped into them to listen to her for several minutes at several points and found zero evidence of mental impairment. I'll be watching the rest this evening and will add to this post if I find anything different.Last edited by carpedm9587; 08-24-2019, 09:37 AM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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I haven't watched those yet, but I have seen interviews where she's asked a question and will sit staring at the floor just long enough for you to think, "Did she fall asleep?" and then she'll croak out an answer that is barely comprehensible. Maybe she was just having a bad day?
I mean, this is the same woman who couldn't even stay awake through a State of the Union speech and then later excused it by implying that she was drunk!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ate-Union.htmlSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI haven't watched those yet, but I have seen interviews where she's asked a question and will sit staring at the floor just long enough for you to think, "Did she fall asleep?" and then she'll croak out an answer that is barely comprehensible. Maybe she was just having a bad day?
I mean, this is the same woman who couldn't even stay awake through a State of the Union speech and then later excused it by implying that she was drunk!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ate-Union.htmlThe ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI haven't watched those yet, but I have seen interviews where she's asked a question and will sit staring at the floor just long enough for you to think, "Did she fall asleep?" and then she'll croak out an answer that is barely comprehensible. Maybe she was just having a bad day?
I mean, this is the same woman who couldn't even stay awake through a State of the Union speech and then later excused it by implying that she was drunk!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ate-Union.html
I don't plan on watching the videos carpe linked to but would be interested if there are any apparent edits in them where she may have been given a chance to rest.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostDavid Axelrod, Senior Advisor to Obama and later his Senior Strategist for Obama's re-election campaign had this up in less than hour after it was announced that Ginsburg was again being treated for pancreatic cancer:
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As we've seen in the age of Trump - moral principles can be ejected if it means winning and "getting what I want."The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostMcConnell has one metric: win at any cost. Nothing else matters, as his political history shows, and as he has pretty much said on multiple occasions. Putting another justice on SCOTUS is a "win" for him, so consistency, honesty, and integrity are unnecessary. And most on the right will be so happy to get another justice on SCOTUS and swing the court strongly right for the next several decades, they will likely find any excuse they can to justify it (as we've already seen happening here) and take the win.
As we've seen in the age of Trump - moral principles can be ejected if it means winning and "getting what I want."Last edited by seer; 08-24-2019, 10:17 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostPolitics ain't bean bag Carp, and it seems that consistency, honesty, and integrity are in short supply on both sides. And this did not start with with Trump, remember how the Dems lied through their teeth to foist Obama care on us and remember it was the Dems who first used the nuclear option to pack the lower courts.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by seer View PostPolitics ain't bean bag Carp, and it seems that consistency, honesty, and integrity are in short supply on both sides.
Originally posted by seer View PostAnd this did not start with with Trump, remember how the Dems lied through their teeth to foist Obama care on us and remember it was the Dems who first used the nuclear option to pack the lower courts.
As for the "nuclear option" and "packing the lower courts," the Dems did indeed make this choice - much as I deplored it. I deplored it for the reasons we are seeing now: it set a precedent to abandon more and more of the conventions that made the Senate deliberative and more likely to move towards compromise. Unfortunately, we live in an age where compromise has become a dirty word. Since the age of Gingrich and "my political opponent is my enemy" and the loss of the notion of "the loyal opposition," Congress has been increasingly polarized. The very conventions that encouraged compromise became obstacles to making much of any progress whatsoever because compromise would result in being primaried by ones own party. Now the Dems are doing it too.
Regrettably, it means that the only avenue towards advancing issues is now to dispense with all of these "let's compromise" conventions and pit one party against the other in a "who ever wins gets to call the shots. Since I am a social liberal and a fiscal conservative, and the Democrats are the social liberals and neither party is a fiscal conservative anymore, it means I will likely vote with the Dems more often than not, and hope for their success. If the Reps ever denounce Trump and reject his style of leadership, I may find myself supporting more of them again. I frankly don't see that happening any time soon. I suspect the GOP of old is pretty much dead - taken over by more and more Trump-like proteges who will continue his legacy into the indefinite future. It's too bad. I am fairly sure that will all be ensure that the GOP will become a has-been and the Dems will be in control for the foreseeable future. The Senate may be the exception due to its make-up, but that could change if DC and PR are admitted as states - so who knows.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostActually - what she said was that she had some wine before the session, and it made her sleepy. Wow, MM, way to use hyperbole to paint someone in a bad light. Frankly, if I had a couple of glasses of wine and then had to listen to a boring speech, I'd nod off too.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostBeing physically exhausted doesn't mean her mind isn't still sharp.
I don't plan on watching the videos carpe linked to but would be interested if there are any apparent edits in them where she may have been given a chance to rest.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostShe said she wasn't sober, so it was obviously more than just a glass or two.
Really, MM - you should be above such ridiculousness. Little wonder that the political ramblings of so many on the right are increasingly ignored. It's borderline conspiracy theory stuff.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostEdits in a three camera sit-down interview are pretty much impossible to spot.
After all, you don't seem hesitant to make other assumptive leaps - why not make that one too!The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostHer exact statement was "I was not 100% sober".
Let's put it this way: your kid comes to you and says, "Dad, I was the one who broke the window." You say, "But you told me your brother did it." Your son shrugs dismissively and says, "I wasn't 100% honest." Tell me, what is your son really saying: 1) He was being somewhat honest; or 2) He wasn't being honest at all?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThey can be...and it shouldn't be tolerated or applauded on either side.
So - "lied through their teeth" is a stretch. Was their exaggeration? Absolutely. Were there outright lies? Yeah - a few of them. But I have never seen the kind of lying from our leaders that we are seeing today, not at any point in my lifetime. And the vast bulk of the lies are coming from the current occupant of the White House - who has openly acknowledged he will lie if it will get him a "win." And he is being defended in his lying by an entire party. Indeed, if there is one "good" that seems to be coming from Trump, it is that there is such a visceral response to his immorality - and such a desire on the left to distance from him - that there is a significant shift towards truth-telling and vetting one's claims before opening one's mouth from the left. It is by no means perfect, but it is pronounced.
That has been happening since I have been following politics. And as far as truth telling from the left - that is just delusional.
As for the "nuclear option" and "packing the lower courts," the Dems did indeed make this choice - much as I deplored it. I deplored it for the reasons we are seeing now: it set a precedent to abandon more and more of the conventions that made the Senate deliberative and more likely to move towards compromise. Unfortunately, we live in an age where compromise has become a dirty word. Since the age of Gingrich and "my political opponent is my enemy" and the loss of the notion of "the loyal opposition," Congress has been increasingly polarized. The very conventions that encouraged compromise became obstacles to making much of any progress whatsoever because compromise would result in being primaried by ones own party. Now the Dems are doing it too.
Regrettably, it means that the only avenue towards advancing issues is now to dispense with all of these "let's compromise" conventions and pit one party against the other in a "who ever wins gets to call the shots. Since I am a social liberal and a fiscal conservative, and the Democrats are the social liberals and neither party is a fiscal conservative anymore, it means I will likely vote with the Dems more often than not, and hope for their success. If the Reps ever denounce Trump and reject his style of leadership, I may find myself supporting more of them again. I frankly don't see that happening any time soon. I suspect the GOP of old is pretty much dead - taken over by more and more Trump-like proteges who will continue his legacy into the indefinite future. It's too bad. I am fairly sure that will all be ensure that the GOP will become a has-been and the Dems will be in control for the foreseeable future. The Senate may be the exception due to its make-up, but that could change if DC and PR are admitted as states - so who knows.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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