Trump's Christian supporters are unchristian

[Cow Poke]

Shouldn't this be in the Loony Bin, since it's basically a gripe thread?

[One Bad Pig]

Shouldn't this be in the Loony Bin, since it's basically a gripe thread?

It's not a gripe, it's a high-pitched whine.

[Cow Poke]

Well, there's THIS part in the article about me.

[LeaC]

Or, Christians finally wised up to the con job that we should only support morally "perfect" candidates while Democrats are willing to do whatever it takes to win.

Oh, and feel free to use scripture to support your contention that Trump supporters are "unchristian".

Personally, I would never vote for Trump, but this claim to know who is or isn't unchristian when voting is distasteful. How is it any different from calling your opponents "evil" or "sinful"? IE, the complaint atheists make against Christians all the time on the grounds that it's a logical fallacy.

Are Trump's policies wrong, logically/morally, or should I be voting against him because atheists think the God they don't believe in doesn't approve of him? Such a confusing argument...

[Mountain Man]

Personally, I would never vote for Trump, but this claim to know who is or isn't unchristian when voting is distasteful. How is it any different from calling your opponents "evil" or "sinful"? IE, the complaint atheists make against Christians all the time on the grounds that it's a logical fallacy.

Are Trump's policies wrong, logically/morally, or should I be voting against him because atheists think the God they don't believe in doesn't approve of him? Such a confusing argument...

It's just a lame attempt to guilt us into doing what they want. If we had done the "honorable" thing and nominated, say, John Kasich, liberals would have praiaed us to our face for demonstrating "integrity" while laughing behind our back for picking an easily defeatable pushover who would cheerfully lose with grace.

[lilpixieofterror]

It's just a lame attempt to guilt us into doing what they want. If we had done the "honorable" thing and nominated, say, John Kasich, liberals would have praiaed us to our face for demonstrating "integrity" while laughing behind our back for picking an easily defeatable pushover who would cheerfully lose with grace.

[JimL]

Yes because listening to anti Christian bigots, that hate me are the best people to get advice from. So Charles, do you care to answer my post you ran away from yet?

Actually I doubt the author was specifically accusing you Lilpix, but white evangelicals in general. But by your reaction though, I guess the dart must have hit home, eh?

[JimL]

The idea that the content of a statement is relative to who says it is a sound idea when the validity of the statement is dependent on the authority of the person to make that statement in the first place.

Or to make it more explicit: Deciding which people, or what behavior, is unchristian is none of your business, especially if you're not part of the Church. It's hardly even your business as an individual member of the Church.

Yeah Charles, only christians get to decide for the rest of us what is right and what is wrong behavior. Who do you think you are anyway, expressing your moral opinion?

[JimL]

I think what really happened is that Christian conservatives finally got fed up with getting suckered by the establishment into selecting morally "acceptable" candidates who were easy for Democrats to beat and decided to go with the guy who actually had a real chance of winning. The establishment desperately wanted us to nominate Jeb or Kasich, and Hillary would have easily demolished them on the campaign trail, and they would have happily conceded on election night with a hearty congratulations to Hillary and a "Can't we all just get along?" speech.

No thank you.

Oh, so that's why you voted for an immoral reprobate to be your president. Got to love you crazy christians.

[JimL]

The Bible has quite a lot to say about not judging others, which is not the same as calling out sin. It's more along the lines of the OP's "You're not a 'real' Christian if you don't do X" sentiments.

And that must be why you don't judge others, right MM?

[Starlight]

Since we can all read the Bible and understand the message it is not too difficult too difficult to see the hypocrazy even for those of us who are not believers.

To be fair, I don't think the Bible is actually very easy to understand - correct translation and interpretation of documents written in a different language and different culture is actually incredibly difficult - and I think most evangelicals are typically wrong across the board about what the bible says on almost all important issues.

But I think your general point that some of the bible's basic moral teachings (love for others etc) are pretty clear, and the current Trump/Republican party clearly doesn't conform to the Bible's basic moral teachings.

I see quite many Christians who are not that reluctant to tell me what Islam is all about and while I disagree with quite many of them

True, they often see to take the view that a few jihadist extremists have the True interpretation of Islam and that the billions of Muslims who aren't doing suicide bombings aren't True Muslims.

[Mountain Man]

True, they often see to take the view that a few jihadist extremists have the True interpretation of Islam and that the billions of Muslims who aren't doing suicide bombings aren't True Muslims.

Which ones are following the teachings and example of Mohammad (peas be upon him), and which ones aren't?

[Mountain Man]

And that must be why you don't judge others, right MM?

I don't believe I've ever judged the faith of another Christian, no. That's not my place.

[NorrinRadd]

I'm pleased to say that the vast majority of WEP positions cited in that article seem perfectly sensible to me. Glad to see I'm on the right side.

On the general point that supporting Trump is inherently an "unchristian" thing to do -- I don't think I've yet seen anyone explain why the same would not be true for supporting the pseudo-Christian cultist Mitt Romney.

[oxmixmudd]

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Gotta love it when non-Christians tell Christians how they're supposed to act.

No. CHRIST defines what our behaviour should be. And it is an absolute disgrace that weve ignored His words to the point non-Christians are calling us out on it.

Jim