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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou wouldn't see the evidence if it hit you over the head, lilpix."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostNo, it wasn't him. Quantum Weirdness, I think.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThis is about me, isn't it?Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThat's one reason I enjoy posting here. You US conservatives are soooo tightly enclosed within your own bubble that ideas considered relatively normal in other Western countries are utterly unknown to you.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWe aren't the ones living on a sheep farm on an island in the middle of the Pacific. Talk about bubbles. HA.
Precisely because our own nation is small and relatively uninteresting and relatively scandal-free, people here tend to focus internationally rather than locally. A politics junkie like me, as a result, reads about 10 international stories for every local or national story I read.
Whereas it's my observation that people in big and complex nations (US, EU) find there is so much of interest and complexity happening within their region (at the local, state, federal level etc) that all their time and attention is consumed by that. The higher numbers of people within your city, state, and nation as well as the larger number of levels of government, mean that whatever amount of time you have to spend following news within the US can be entirely consumed by relatively interesting stories, without you needing to go outside your region to look for more.
The result is that people from smaller and less complex nations have a much thinner bubble/no bubble and a much more internationalist perspective and understanding than those who live in bigger more complex nations/territories that result in thick bubbles of self-focus."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostPrecisely because our own nation is small and relatively uninteresting and relatively scandal-free, people here tend to focus internationally rather than locally. A politics junkie like me, as a result, reads about 10 international stories for every local or national story I read.
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Grass it turns out, grows in summer. And some people like driving cars. Those are literally the top stories here. Can you see now why instead of subscribing to the true wonders of local and national news, I instead choose to spend my time reading and listening to international news on the internet?
In the entirety of December I can only recall 4 stories of note in my country:
1. Several local councils are trialing allowing rent-able shareable electric scooters
2. A rocket company successfully launched some satellites into orbit
3. The government announced there's going to be a Marijuana referendum in 2020
4. The government's special working group on Mental Health concluded that mental health services need more funding and that drug legalization would greatly help things
The US alone has 4 interesting stories a day to read about. Hence why I read international stories from other countries where interesting and exciting and crazy things happen. Like when a US President shuts down the government without understanding what a government shutdown actually is."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostWas visiting a relative today who subscribes to the local paper. Saw the front page and thought of this thread...
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Grass it turns out, grows in summer. And some people like driving cars. Those are literally the top stories here. Can you see now why instead of subscribing to the true wonders of local and national news...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostWhereas it's my observation that people in big and complex nations (US, EU)...Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI think this works the opposite way to how you expect.
Precisely because our own nation is small and relatively uninteresting and relatively scandal-free, people here tend to focus internationally rather than locally. A politics junkie like me, as a result, reads about 10 international stories for every local or national story I read.
Whereas it's my observation that people in big and complex nations (US, EU) find there is so much of interest and complexity happening within their region (at the local, state, federal level etc) that all their time and attention is consumed by that. The higher numbers of people within your city, state, and nation as well as the larger number of levels of government, mean that whatever amount of time you have to spend following news within the US can be entirely consumed by relatively interesting stories, without you needing to go outside your region to look for more.
The result is that people from smaller and less complex nations have a much thinner bubble/no bubble and a much more internationalist perspective and understanding than those who live in bigger more complex nations/territories that result in thick bubbles of self-focus.
Your bubble is complete.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYeah 'reading' about what is happening in the world is not exactly knowing, Starlight. You read biased articles and know everything 3rd hand or more removed. Your idea of what the USA or Europe is like, socially and politically is nothing but a liberal fantasy based on liberal newspapers, TV and movies.
Your bubble is complete.
Whereas it amuses me that you guys seem to believe in osmosis and that if you're geographically in the US that knowledge about everything in it will somehow leech into you. And then you get upset when a well-read foreigner knows more than you do."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI've visited both the US and Europe in person. As has almost everyone I know - significant international travel is popular here. And I consume a very wide variety of media.
Whereas it amuses me that you guys seem to believe in osmosis and that if you're geographically in the US that knowledge about everything in it will somehow leech into you. And then you get upset when a well-read foreigner knows more than you do.
Yeah, you're right - you are the subject matter expert on life in America!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI've visited both the US and Europe in person. As has almost everyone I know - significant international travel is popular here. And I consume a very wide variety of media.
Whereas it amuses me that you guys seem to believe in osmosis and that if you're geographically in the US that knowledge about everything in it will somehow leech into you. And then you get upset when a well-read foreigner knows more than you do."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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