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    China calls Islam a disease and "quarantines" 1M Muslims

    China Is Treating Islam Like a Mental Illness

    The country is putting Muslims in internment camps—and causing real psychological damage in the process.



    One million Muslims are being held right now in Chinese internment camps, according to estimates cited by the UN and U.S. officials. Former inmates—most of whom are Uighurs, a largely Muslim ethnic minority—have told reporters that over the course of an indoctrination process lasting several months, they were forced to renounce Islam, criticize their own Islamic beliefs and those of fellow inmates, and recite Communist Party propaganda songs for hours each day. There are media reports of inmates being forced to eat pork and drink alcohol, which are forbidden to Muslims, as well as reports of torture and death.

    The sheer scale of the internment camp system, which according to The Wall Street Journal has doubled in China’s northwestern Xinjiang region just within the last year, is mindboggling. The U.S. Congressional-Executive Commission on China describes it as “the largest mass incarceration of a minority population in the world today.” Beijing began by targeting Uighur extremists, but now even benign manifestations of Muslim identity—like growing a long beard—can get a Uighur sent to a camp, the Journal noted. Earlier this month, when a UN panel confronted a senior Chinese official about the camps, he said there are “no such things as reeducation centers,” even though government documents refer to the facilities that way. Instead, he claimed they’re just vocational schools for criminals.


    China has been selling a very different narrative to its own population. Although the authorities frequently describe the internment camps as schools, they also liken them to another type of institution: hospitals. Here’s an excerpt from an official Communist Party audio recording, which was transmitted last year to Uighurs via WeChat, a social-media platform, and which was transcribed and translated by Radio Free Asia:

    Members of the public who have been chosen for reeducation have been infected by an ideological illness. They have been infected with religious extremism and violent terrorist ideology, and therefore they must seek treatment from a hospital as an inpatient. … The religious extremist ideology is a type of poisonous medicine, which confuses the mind of the people. … If we do not eradicate religious extremism at its roots, the violent terrorist incidents will grow and spread all over like an incurable malignant tumor.

    more at:
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    From what I can tell, China's target is less Islam and more the Uighur/Uyghur (which are almost all Muslim). Non-Uighur Muslims are generally treated much better. Here's some information about it:
    https://thediplomat.com/2014/08/a-ta...im-minorities/

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    Well that is disturbing. Seems like a rights violation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Since this is being instituted by lovable leftists and not evil white men -- especially the wicked tyrant Trump -- I'm sure they have a good reason and are justified.
    This post appears to be tailor-made to provoke a derail.

    Given that Islam is a politico-theological system, I'm surprised that China has waited this long to crack down this vigorously. As Terraceth observes, however, this appears to be at least as much about Sinification of the province as it is suppression of Islam; they've been systematically moving in Han Chinese as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    This post appears to be tailor-made to provoke a derail.
    It was meant as smart-ass comment so yes I'm guilty of a bit of trolling here. Still, it is telling how quite the leftist contingent is on the matter especially considering their sudden interest in "Islamophobia."

    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Given that Islam is a politico-theological system, I'm surprised that China has waited this long to crack down this vigorously. As Terraceth observes, however, this appears to be at least as much about Sinification of the province as it is suppression of Islam; they've been systematically moving in Han Chinese as well.
    The Chinese have also been suffering from acts of violence at the hands of Islamic terrorists, something that rarely gets reported by the Western press. While most of it appears to be linked with Islam (as Terraceth noted non-Muslims are not being harassed), Pan-Turkism and local separatists groups are other factors in play

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    The Chinese have also been suffering from acts of violence at the hands of Islamic terrorists, something that rarely gets reported by the Western press. While most of it appears to be linked with Islam (as Terraceth noted non-Muslims are not being harassed), Pan-Turkism and local separatists groups are other factors in play
    Hrm? That's not what I said. I said that Muslims that weren't Uighur (an ethnic group) weren't being harassed, not that non-Muslims weren't being harassed. Or perhaps more accurately, Muslims that weren't Uighur are being harassed much less than the Uighur Muslims. My statement was that the target of this seems to less be Islam so much as it is the Uighur, who are almost entirely Muslim, so if you're suppressing Uighur you'll be targeting a lot of Muslims.

    It's not fully a Uighur thing; the article notes that while it's mostly Uighur Muslims, there are other Muslims. But going after Islam seems to be of secondary importance to going after the Uighur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terraceth View Post
    Hrm? That's not what I said. I said that Muslims that weren't Uighur (an ethnic group) weren't being harassed, not that non-Muslims weren't being harassed. Or perhaps more accurately, Muslims that weren't Uighur are being harassed much less than the Uighur Muslims. My statement was that the target of this seems to less be Islam so much as it is the Uighur, who are almost entirely Muslim, so if you're suppressing Uighur you'll be targeting a lot of Muslims.

    It's not fully a Uighur thing; the article notes that while it's mostly Uighur Muslims, there are other Muslims. But going after Islam seems to be of secondary importance to going after the Uighur.
    My bad. I misremembered your post causing me to misrepresent it. Again, my apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    This post appears to be tailor-made to provoke a derail.

    Given that Islam is a politico-theological system, I'm surprised that China has waited this long to crack down this vigorously. As Terraceth observes, however, this appears to be at least as much about Sinification of the province as it is suppression of Islam; they've been systematically moving in Han Chinese as well.
    It still goes to the point of how socialism treats those it doesn't like. Whether Muslim, or some ethnic group, Socialist governments (Soviet Union, China, Cuba, etc) are known for their "cleansing" and "re-education" policies. For a philosophy supposedly based on social equality, socialist countries routinely fail bigly and are guilty of the most heinous of human rights violations on the planet.

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    Chuck get back in the car and out of my thread. Please remove all of Chuck's posts and replies to it, including Rogue's initial derail mentioning Trump. This is not about Trump, but about China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Chuck get back in the car and out of my thread. Please remove all of Chuck's posts and replies to it, including Rogue's initial derail mentioning Trump. This is not about Trump, but about China.
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