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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostDid you ever stop to consider that's because the people you place so much faith in have no idea how to do so?
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostRead the full article.
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostActually, the judge in that case misrepresented Behe's testimony:
Yet the judge concluded that Behe said they weren't good enough.
Blessings,
Lee
Last edited by shunyadragon; 01-24-2019, 07:22 PM.
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostBut if man is in the image of God, then we could look for design analogous to human design.
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LeeLast edited by shunyadragon; 01-25-2019, 02:10 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThat is what they are looking for in SETI. Intelligent design is looking for design in nature that is a source outside nature, ie God, as cited above in the Dover trial.
And I have yet to hear how Dembski's definition of specified complexity is circular...
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostI think it's because design is hard to quantify, it's more a matter of judgment than of calculation."Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostWell, you will find some who link intelligent design with God, but their stated aim is to detect the work of a designer, along the lines of what man can do, not necessarily even outside nature.
And I have yet to hear how Dembski's definition of specified complexity is circular...
Blessings,
Lee
The argument you propose is that God Creates like some anthropomorphic engineer. Nonetheless the human model you propose also operates withing the constrains of the laws of nature as evolution does, and not statistical probability. All the Intelligent Design argument is anchored on is the assertion that our natural existence (universe) and life cannot arise and evolve because of the low probability that it can take place by laws of nature and the nature of our physical existence.
All this, and the problems presented in the thread, http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...the-same-again, concerning p-value testing, which is the false foundation for the whole Intelligent Design argument. These two threads over lap concerning the severe problems with the whole argument.
More references will be provided concerning these problems that are not sound science nor math.
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostIf it all comes down to subjective judgement, how can it ever be scientific?
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThis documented as an attempt to demonstrate that. The arguments by the likes of Behe and Dempski are well understood by science.
These two threads over lap concerning the severe problems with the whole argument.
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostMaybe not hard science, like physics, but instead like soft science, such as economics, where good judgment is as necessary as good calculations."Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostWhich cannot tell us why Dembki's definition is circular.
So I will shift the ID discussion to the other thread.
Blessings,
LeeLast edited by shunyadragon; 01-26-2019, 09:24 PM.
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostSo, you're good with "My evidence? Looks designed to me! I don't need to deal with any of that messy DNA stuff."
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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