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  • 'Traditional Masculinity' Is Harmful...

    The opinion of nancy boys and leftist women...

    The American Psychological Association has zeroed in on the ideology of masculinity, suggesting that parents and psychologists should think twice before instilling elements of "traditional masculinity" in men and boys.

    Traditional masculinity ideology – which the APA says includes elements of "anti-femininity, achievement, eschewal of the appearance of weakness, and adventure, risk, and violence" – can be psychologically harmful to men and boys, the association noted in its 36-page "APA Guidelines for the Psychological Practice with Boys and Men" that's highlighted in the latest issue of its Monitor on Psychology magazine.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/national...sociation-says
    Let's check off the boxes.

    1. I seldom cry or show emotion or weakness.

    2. I had high risk and adventurous behavior when young.

    3. I think homosexuality is immoral (homophobic?).

    4. I don't use violence unless in self-defense. But I will use it.

    5. I think men need to protect women.

    So I guess I am a psychological mess...
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    Originally posted by seer View Post
    So I guess I am a psychological mess...
    I would guess so too.

    parents and psychologists should think twice before instilling elements of "traditional masculinity" in men and boys.
    The APA document accurately notes how culturally dependent and arbitrary different conceptions of masculinity can be:

    Understanding the socially constructed nature of masculinity and how it affects boys and men, as well as psychologists, also is an important cultural competency (Levant & Silverstein, 2005; Liu, 2005; Mellinger & Liu, 2006; Sue & Sue, 2012). It is common to use the term “masculinities” rather than “masculinity” to acknowledge the various conceptions of masculine gender roles associated with an intersection of multiple identities (e.g., rural, working-class, adult, White masculinities may take a different form than urban, teenage, Mexican American masculinities; Kimmel & Messner, 2012). Certain forms of masculinities are more socially central and associated with authority, social power, and influence (Connell & Messerschmidt, 2005). In Western culture, the dominant ideal of masculinity has moved from an upper-class aristocratic image to a more rugged and self-sufficient ideal (Kimmel,2012)

    In ancient Greece, for example, the idealized masculine warrior would wear armor shaped with more abs than a modern body-builder, be the bravest in battle, have a younger homosexual lover, and be emotionally expressive to the point of absurd tantrums.

    So it's quite reasonable to ask how beneficial / harmful any particular culture's construction of "masculinity" is to the psychology of individuals involved (both to those who follow it and those who feel they fall short) and society in general. I've seen, for example, even conservatives here on TWeb critique the "rugged and self-sufficient" man ideal on the grounds that it stunts emotional development, and they feel men should learn to express their feelings and be able to receive support from others more than the ideal encourages.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by seer View Post
      The opinion of nancy boys and leftist women...



      Let's check off the boxes.

      1. I seldom cry or show emotion or weakness.

      2. I had high risk and adventurous behavior when young.

      3. I think homosexuality is immoral (homophobic?).

      4. I don't use violence unless in self-defense. But I will use it.

      5. I think men need to protect women.

      So I guess I am a psychological mess...
      But you're not surprised, eh?
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        I would guess so too.
        Pot calling the kettle black? The point is there is nothing harmful about the way I think or act. But hey if you want be emotionally expressive to the point of absurd tantrums like a 12 year old girl - feel free...
        Last edited by seer; 01-09-2019, 07:17 PM.
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #5
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          The opinion of nancy boys and leftist women...



          Let's check off the boxes.

          1. I seldom cry or show emotion or weakness.

          2. I had high risk and adventurous behavior when young.

          3. I think homosexuality is immoral (homophobic?).

          4. I don't use violence unless in self-defense. But I will use it.

          5. I think men need to protect women.

          So I guess I am a psychological mess...
          No. Just a dinosaur...a creature of your era reflecting the sexist, racist, homophobic values of your Age. Society has moved on and with it the values of your society.
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          • #6
            Is there a similar study investigating the dangers of teaching your daughters in "traditional femininity"?

            Where is the equality!



            What a load of bull crap.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by mossrose View Post
              Is there a similar study investigating the dangers of teaching your daughters in "traditional femininity"?
              Possibly. But the stunting of emotional development, and the tendency toward isolation, and refusal to accept help even when needed, associated with ""traditional"" (i.e. mid-late 20th century white Western) masculinity is an infamous problem.
              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                Possibly. But the stunting of emotional development, and the tendency toward isolation, and refusal to accept help even when needed, associated with ""traditional"" (i.e. mid-late 20th century white Western) masculinity is an infamous problem.
                I see you don't recognize sarcasm when you see it.


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                • #9
                  Liberals have been trying to emasculate men for decades now, this is nothing new.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                    Liberals have been trying to emasculate men for decades now, this is nothing new.
                    Exactly!

                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                      No. Just a dinosaur...a creature of your era reflecting the sexist, racist, homophobic values of your Age. Society has moved on and with it the values of your society.
                      And we are getting whimps like you. No thanks.
                      That's what
                      - She

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                        And we are getting whimps like you. No thanks.
                        Babes don't like wimps...

                        The Allure of Aggressive Men

                        https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...aggressive-men

                        Women show sexual preference for tall, dominant men – so is gender inequality inevitable?

                        http://theconversation.com/women-sho...evitable-98159

                        5 Scientific Reasons Why Women Just Won't Go For The Nice (wimpy) Guys

                        https://www.elitedaily.com/dating/sc...e-guys/1000116
                        Last edited by seer; 01-10-2019, 09:15 AM.
                        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                          And we are getting whimps like you. No thanks.
                          And sickness like this.

                          https://www.dailywire.com/news/39409...-prestigiacomo

                          On December 1, an 11-year-old boy dressed in drag danced on stage in a sexual manner at a gay bar in Brooklyn, NY, called 3 Dollar Bill. The child, Desmond Napoles, was dressed as a Gwen Stefani-lookalike — full drag make up, a blonde wig, and crop top included — as he bounced around onstage to No Doubt's "Like a Girl" and collected dollar bills from male adults viewing the number.
                          Disgusting and horrendous. Parents should be locked up!


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                          • #14
                            Except "nice guys" actually aren't nice. They want something in return, so they aren't actually nice. And protecting others is a good thing! It's all a matter of not going to extremes. Like it would be concerning if an adult burst into tears as easily as an infant, but you don't want to bottle up emotions either. You want to resolve them like a grownup. And each person is different, so we should not try to squish everyone into the same box! If guys tend to be risk takers, so be it. We wouldn't have modern technology if people didn't take risks. We safety conscious gals will spot you!
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                            • #15
                              That's what
                              - She

                              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                              I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                              - Stephen R. Donaldson

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