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    Brexit vote

    PM looses vote 202 to 432. Biggest defeat since 1920’s. Confidence vote tomorrow. If gov looses that, May resigns and Gen election will follow. What a shambles?!
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    So, basically, Democracy goes out the window where democracy is supposed to be the rule.


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    So exactly what was in the deal that they rejected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    PM looses vote 202 to 432. Biggest defeat since 1920’s. Confidence vote tomorrow. If gov looses that, May resigns and Gen election will follow. What a shambles?!
    My impression is that the British want to leave, but not on the EU's terms.

    Do you think this will come to a "no agreement" exit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    So, basically, Democracy goes out the window where democracy is supposed to be the rule.
    This was the 'meaningful vote' on the Withdrawal Agreement. No country has exited the EU before so it's bound to be tricky. Brexit will happen but exactly how is yet to be decided ... unless it all goes off the rails.
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    Are they gonna build a wall in Ireland?


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    I haven't really been following this closely, and I don't know all the politics involved, but what I'm getting from this whole fiasco is that a majority of citizens voted a year ago for Britain to leave the European Union, and the politicians are doing everything they can to override the will of the people. Is that about right?

    Of course everything I know about British politics I learned from watching Yes, Minister:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Are they gonna build a wall in Ireland?

    The Irish border is definately a serious stumbling block.
    For Brexiteers, the Irish "backstop" has become a dirty word, handcuffing the UK to the EU’s customs union and taking away Britain’s chance to strike trade deals around the world for the foreseeable future.

    When the history of Brexit is written, there will be long arguments over whether the "backstop" could have been avoided, but even before the Brexit vote (2016), it was clear that Ireland was going to present a major impediment to the UK’s departure from the EU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    I haven't really been following this closely, and I don't know all the politics involved, but what I'm getting from this whole fiasco is that a majority of citizens voted a year ago for Britain to leave the European Union, and the politicians are doing everything they can to override the will of the people. Is that about right?

    Of course everything I know about British politics I learned from watching Yes Minister.
    The Gov. is trying to deliver Brexit but has failed to develop a consensus about the details of the withdrawal. Unless it is revoked, Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union ensures that the UK leaves the EU whether it has an agreement or not, on 29th March this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    I haven't really been following this closely, and I don't know all the politics involved, but what I'm getting from this whole fiasco is that a majority of citizens voted a year ago for Britain to leave the European Union, and the politicians are doing everything they can to override the will of the people. Is that about right?

    Of course everything I know about British politics I learned from watching Yes, Minister:

    No they are leaving the EU in March. This is about striking a deal with the EU on the exit, like how to handle trade, borders, EU citizens living in the UK and vice versa, and apparently how much money the UK has to pay the EU (I have no idea what for)

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