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From an outsider's perspective... it seems to me that the MP's simply don't want Brexit and will do whatever they need to in order to sabotage what was voted upon by the people... 
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Yeah, but that just seems so odd to me - like they'd have more power as their own entity, rather than being subservient (in a sense) to a bigger conglomerate. (But, then again, I'm an American Exceptionalist)Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostFrom an outsider's perspective... it seems to me that the MP's simply don't want Brexit and will do whatever they need to in order to sabotage what was voted upon by the people...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Well, the people spoke, and then they spoke again ...Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostFrom an outsider's perspective... it seems to me that the MP's simply don't want Brexit and will do whatever they need to in order to sabotage what was voted upon by the people...
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...d-idea/584524/
I don't think the people will have another chance to get what they want ... to remain in the EU.
- BBCA petition calling for the UK to stay in the EU, which has amassed more than six million signatures, has been debated in Parliament.
The petition, demanding Article 50 be revoked, is the most popular since the e-petitions site launched.
Two other petitions were debated in the Westminster Hall chamber.
One, demanding a new referendum, has over 180,000 signatures. The other, urging MPs to "honour the referendum result", has more than 170,000.
The government has said it will not revoke Article 50 and it is working to deliver a deal that "ensures the UK leaves the EU".Comment
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so isn't the firstfloor actually the second floor of a building over in europe?
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In fairness to some MPs, the public were promised the undeliverable. They were promised sunlit uplands and easy trade deals etc etc - none of which was ever realisitc (most of it bonkers actually), and this has been shown to be the case in the last few year. A new vote is actually the only way through this impasse.Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostFrom an outsider's perspective... it seems to me that the MP's simply don't want Brexit and will do whatever they need to in order to sabotage what was voted upon by the people...
We should have as many votes as there are good reasons for holding them.
Losing - obviously - is not a good reason.
An unsafe result (which would have been struck down by the courts if it hadn't been advisory-only) is an excellent reason. Everybody is ignoring this fact but there is no valid mandate for Brexit.
Another (possibly) good reason is that a tiny majority doesn't look very reliable three years on with so much more new information. The EU did not cave. Trade deals will not be easy and they will not be as good as the ones we could have with the clout of the EU behind us. Countries like the US, Japan & China are eagerly lining up to exploit our vulnerability. So many glib promises have been shown to be false. Do people still feel the same way? Unlikely.
None of the options on the table now were being discussed in 2016, so there's no democratic mandate for any of them.Comment
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Also, it wasn't a referendum, though it continues to be called it. It was a non-binding plebiscite. In order to have a referendum, there needs to be a parliamentary bill that sets out in full detail what a change will entail, if the public votes for change; And what the minimum margin of victory to trigger change needs to be (typically this will be a supermajority of 67% or more).Comment
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Well that explains why there wasn't a referendum at least.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Tearful Theresa to step down on 7th June.Comment
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Life will go on. When Rachel steps down, however, there will be no consoling you.Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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So who replaces her? Who'll end up being the next leader? That Boris guy [ETA: Boris Johnson], or someone else?Originally posted by firstfloor View PostLast edited by rogue06; 05-24-2019, 05:54 PM.
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But, sadly, she's losing steam.
Maddow, other MSNBC hosts see ratings drop, Fox up
Perhaps she needs to add a couple shots to her espresso?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Wait --- the AG has been authorized to make things TRANSPARENT!!!! EGAD, man, what is the world coming to?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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