Brexit vote

[firstfloor]

[Bill the Cat]

So, basically, Democracy goes out the window where democracy is supposed to be the rule.

[Sparko]

So exactly what was in the deal that they rejected?

[One Bad Pig]

My impression is that the British want to leave, but not on the EU's terms.

Do you think this will come to a "no agreement" exit?

[firstfloor]

So, basically, Democracy goes out the window where democracy is supposed to be the rule.

This was the 'meaningful vote' on the Withdrawal Agreement. No country has exited the EU before so it's bound to be tricky. Brexit will happen but exactly how is yet to be decided ... unless it all goes off the rails.

[Sparko]

Are they gonna build a wall in Ireland?

[Mountain Man]

I haven't really been following this closely, and I don't know all the politics involved, but what I'm getting from this whole fiasco is that a majority of citizens voted a year ago for Britain to leave the European Union, and the politicians are doing everything they can to override the will of the people. Is that about right?

Of course everything I know about British politics I learned from watching Yes, Minister:

[firstfloor]

Are they gonna build a wall in Ireland?

The Irish border is definately a serious stumbling block.

[firstfloor]

I haven't really been following this closely, and I don't know all the politics involved, but what I'm getting from this whole fiasco is that a majority of citizens voted a year ago for Britain to leave the European Union, and the politicians are doing everything they can to override the will of the people. Is that about right?

Of course everything I know about British politics I learned from watching Yes Minister.

The Gov. is trying to deliver Brexit but has failed to develop a consensus about the details of the withdrawal. Unless it is revoked, Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union ensures that the UK leaves the EU whether it has an agreement or not, on 29th March this year.

[Sparko]

I haven't really been following this closely, and I don't know all the politics involved, but what I'm getting from this whole fiasco is that a majority of citizens voted a year ago for Britain to leave the European Union, and the politicians are doing everything they can to override the will of the people. Is that about right?

Of course everything I know about British politics I learned from watching Yes, Minister:

No they are leaving the EU in March. This is about striking a deal with the EU on the exit, like how to handle trade, borders, EU citizens living in the UK and vice versa, and apparently how much money the UK has to pay the EU (I have no idea what for)

[Mountain Man]

No they are leaving the EU in March. This is about striking a deal with the EU on the exit, like how to handle trade, borders, EU citizens living in the UK and vice versa, and apparently how much money the UK has to pay the EU (I have no idea what for)

Ah, well, like I said, I haven't really been following it.

One thing I do know: the EU has largely been a failure.

[Mountain Man]

This is from FOX:

"The deal was doomed by deep opposition from both sides of the divide over U.K.'s place in the bloc. Pro-Brexit lawmakers say the deal will leave Britain bound indefinitely to EU rules, while pro-EU politicians favor an even closer economic relationship with Europe."
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...tish-lawmakers

It sounds like the PM was trying to create a deal that would have effectively kept Britain in the EU in some unofficial capacity. So my earlier summation wasn't entirely off the mark.

[firstfloor]

[Darth Ovious]

Essentially what happened is a lot of Brexiteers on the Conservative side voted against it since it would pretty much leave us as a vassel state to the EU still signed up to most of it but with no voting rights.

[Darth Ovious]

This is from FOX:

"The deal was doomed by deep opposition from both sides of the divide over U.K.'s place in the bloc. Pro-Brexit lawmakers say the deal will leave Britain bound indefinitely to EU rules, while pro-EU politicians favor an even closer economic relationship with Europe."
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...tish-lawmakers

It sounds like the PM was trying to create a deal that would have effectively kept Britain in the EU in some unofficial capacity. So my earlier summation wasn't entirely off the mark.

The Brexiteers who voted against it are going for a no deal exit which they hope will happen if a deal isn't agreed upon by end of March.