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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWhy are you wasting time posting here, Chuck? Shouldn't you be out helping people in need?"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And its an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostPointing out moral obligations is one way to try to help people in need. Wouldn't you agree? If not why engage in moral discussion at all? And it seems you imply I am not out helping others in need. Why? Do I need to do it all the time and should I not allow myself to speak my opinion?
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Originally posted by Charles View PostPointing out moral obligations is one way to try to help people in need. Wouldn't you agree?
If not why engage in moral discussion at all?
And it seems you imply I am not out helping others in need. Why? Do I need to do it all the time and should I not allow myself to speak my opinion?Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhat is wrong with letting kids sit in cages on the border Chuck? If morality is just a relative value as Tassman says, then who cares?
And in this case it seems you are the one who does not care and quite many of your fellow Christians do not seem to care either or seem to do your best to find all sorts of excuses that do not work if you believe in objective standards (Obama did it too being just one example)."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And its an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostNo.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI'm sorry if you think I imply such. Can you provide any examples of you actually helping others in need?"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And its an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostAsk Tassman why he holds his opinion. I am not a relativist.
And in this case it seems you are the one who does not care and quite many of your fellow Christians do not seem to care either or seem to do your best to find all sorts of excuses that do not work if you believe in objective standards (Obama did it too being just one example).
As far as personal obligation? My representatives in congress already agrees to what I said above and are pushing for that. Otherwise I would be writing and urging them to do so. What have you done?
Now if you want to discuss it further, take it to the other thread.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAs I said in the other thread, I do care. I think the solution is 1- Give more money and resources to ICE to make the conditions better, 2- keep records of the families and do records and DNA checks to make sure that the children belong to the "parents" and 3. Build the wall.
As far as personal obligation? My representatives in congress already agrees to what I said above and are pushing for that. Otherwise I would be writing and urging them to do so. What have you done?
Now if you want to discuss it further, take it to the other thread."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And its an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostThank you for proving part of my point. Part of your solution to help those in need is to build a wall. If you were in need and needed to go to another country to survive or live a decent life how much would a wall help you. You see? The wall might make the problem invisible to you but it will still be there objectively.
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...-Kids-In-Cages
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWhy are you wasting time posting here, Chuck? Shouldn't you be out helping people in need?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostJimL.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostOk. So you don't believe having a discussion on right or wrong makes an actaul difference. Interesting. Then perhaps it is more of a question why you are wasting your time on discussing this. I don't feel like I am wasting time.
That would imply a change of focus and would be an undecent thing to do. And since we are discussing objective standards what I do is completely irrelevant. That part of it is obviously difficult for you guys to grasp though I pointed it out numerous times.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThat would require someone actually falling for it.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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