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So what is this toxic masculinity thing anyhow?
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe sex organs are also for giving pleasure, not just procreation.
Arguably the former is more common.
“Abnormal” is usually understood as “deviating from what is normal or usual, typically in a way that is undesirable or worrying” – Merriam Webster.
Whilst this would apply to a person with Down’s Syndrome it does not apply to those with red hair, or ‘left-handed’ or, given our current state of knowledge, homosexual...all of which are just variations of the norm.That's what
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostJust as “normal” heterosexuality can be used to defend rape and sexual exploitation of women such as grabbing their genitals.
Or, more appropriately, reject any sexual behavior that results in victims, such as rape and pedophilia, and accept behavior that is based upon mutual consent and love.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostIf god can get it wrong, then how do you know when he gets it right? We as human beings decide what is in the best interests of ourselves and the society we live in. We don't always get that right, and morality evolves as do we. You attribute those changes to god, even though you call it an objective standard, I attribute them to human evolution.
But you avoided the question: if human society and reason can get it wrong with regards to morality, then what basis do you use to determine when we get it right? How do you know, for example, that we weren't right about homosexuality before, and we've gotten it wrong now?Last edited by Mountain Man; 05-23-2019, 09:40 AM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostActually she was 9 according to the sources. They used a lunar calendar at the time, which if I'm remembering right puts her around 6 under our solar calendar.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIIRC she was 7 when they married and Muhammad was forced to wait until she was 9 to consummate the marriage due to a prolonged illness on her part.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostI'll have to go back and check. I might be misremembering some figures.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostLunar calendars also have 13 month years to keep the calendar in step with the solar year.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostI was thinking it was 6 for when the marriage ceremony was, but given the context of the discussion the consummation would be the more important part to focus on.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThey can, but IIRC the Muslim one(s) do(es) not.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostSeems strange that they would break with long standing practice in the Middle East ... so ... checking ... The Islamic calendar is Lunisolar over a 30 year cycle. Leap years add 1 day/month.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostRamadan still wanders quite a bit.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostYes - year on year there will be discrepancies. I think 11 days where 2 ordinary years are back to back - it would be 22 days when there are 3 ordinary years back to back. The corrections only bring into things in line with the solar calendar every 30th year.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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