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So what is this toxic masculinity thing anyhow?

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  • #16
    I honestly do try pretty hard to be respectful. I dont think it is a good idea to shame folks for something they arent.
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    • #17
      It's just one more step in the liberal agenda to destroy the nuclear family.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #18
        Since when did being a complete jerk equal masculinity? Both men and women(and girls and boys) are capable of being kind or cruel and those aren't feminine or masculine traits! Either gender has people who choose to be evil jerks, and both genders have people who choose to be kind and gentle. Oh, and meek does not mean weak. Meekness is more not picking certain battles because it's not worth it. Meek is strength under control. A man should look to Jesus to see what true masculinity looks like.
        If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          It's just one more step in the liberal agenda to destroy the nuclear family.
          To nuke the nuclear family.

          Also: Bovine faeces to your claim. In my entire life not once have I ever heard it suggested by any of the tens of thousands of hours worth of liberal and leftist sources that I've listened to and read that it was a desirable goal to destroy the nuclear family. Your claim is just utterly wacko.

          Although I myself from my own anthropology reading would point out to you that an extended family structure has numerous advantages over the nuclear family structure, and that the nuclear family structure is historically relatively new (early 20th century). But I suspect an extended family structure isn't what you're against. Many cultures throughout history have thrived with a massive variety of family structures.
          Last edited by Starlight; 01-16-2019, 06:03 PM.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by TheWall View Post
            Growing up I was taught acting like that was the opposite of what men should do. I dont think those traits are necessarily masculine.
            Great!

            However, as such, many older conservatives would thus view you as having been brainwashed by the SJWs. Back in their day, men were real men (i.e. jerks).
            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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            • #21
              I think toxic masculinity is a reference to men whose mind has been distorted by the toxic hyperactivity control drugs given to them when they were children. The drugs distorted their neurons and made them aggressive and suicidal so as to imagine it a good idea to shoot up innocent people. This all is a consequence of leftist policies for the schools.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                I think toxic masculinity is a reference to men whose mind has been distorted by the toxic hyperactivity control drugs given to them when they were children. The drugs distorted their neurons and made them aggressive and suicidal so as to imagine it a good idea to shoot up innocent people. This all is a consequence of leftist policies for the schools.
                More than once I've heard that drugs like Ritalin and Adderall were designed to make boys (who are prescribed them at much higher rates than girls) "calmer" and behave more like girls in the classroom.

                I'm always still in trouble again

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                  I think toxic masculinity is a reference to men whose mind has been distorted by the toxic hyperactivity control drugs given to them when they were children. The drugs distorted their neurons and made them aggressive and suicidal so as to imagine it a good idea to shoot up innocent people. This all is a consequence of leftist policies for the schools.
                  Wow. You're completely nuts. Do you wear a tin-foil hat?
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Wow. You're completely nuts. Do you wear a tin-foil hat?
                    I love your brilliant retorts.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by seer View Post
                      The Allure of Aggressive Men
                      A new study illuminates why women can find combativeness attractive.

                      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...aggressive-men
                      Actually, if you read the link the women found aggressive men attractive at times for short-term flings, but not for long-term relationships. Instead they went for 'nice guys' for long term relationships.

                      the thinking goes, women will maximize their reproductive success by choosing a macho man as a short-term mate for his genes, and a less masculine man with a warmer personality for a long-term, invested partner.

                      ...

                      What did the researchers find? Women preferred aggressive men as short-term mates, and particularly during ovulation... At the same time, it is important to underscore that these men were preferred as short-term mates. Dominant men who derive pleasure from being aggressive deliver scant relationship benefits because they pose a threat to the family, show decreased parental investment, and have affairs. Consequently, and as expected, the women in this study preferred less aggressive men for long-term relationships.

                      So the macho men get the one night stands, but the nice guys get the girls long-term.
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        Great!

                        However, as such, many older conservatives would thus view you as having been brainwashed by the SJWs. Back in their day, men were real men (i.e. jerks).

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          Great!

                          However, as such, many older conservatives would thus view you as having been brainwashed by the SJWs. Back in their day, men were real men (i.e. jerks).
                          NO, Starlight the vast majority of older conservatives would be the ones that taught TheWall how not to be a jerk. Your prejudice is showing. sure there are some conservative men who are jerks, but some liberal men are as well, Harvey Wienstien ring a bell. So until you start calling out those bad actors on your side you are nothing but a bigoted hypocrite especially when you continue to paint conservatives with that broad brush of yours.

                          I am still waiting for that list of yours here. you still have a chance to disprove you are a bigoted hypocrite if you can come up with a list statements from that article Little Joe posted. It shouldn't be to hard if you read the article in question as you said you had, when you called almost half of the American voters morally depraved.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                            I think toxic masculinity is a reference to men whose mind has been distorted by the toxic hyperactivity control drugs given to them when they were children. The drugs distorted their neurons and made them aggressive and suicidal so as to imagine it a good idea to shoot up innocent people. This all is a consequence of leftist policies for the schools.
                            It is also present when there was no man in the house to be a role model to boys, which is also a consequence of leftist policies.
                            Last edited by RumTumTugger; 01-17-2019, 11:14 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              Wow. You're completely nuts. Do you wear a tin-foil hat?
                              NPC Starlight's default when his programed responses wont let him pretend he has anything to add to the conversation. Falsely accuse his opponent of being nuts.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                                NO, Starlight the vast majority of older conservatives would be the ones that taught TheWall how not to be a jerk. Your prejudice is showing. sure there are some conservative men who are jerks, but some liberal men are as well, Harvey Wienstien ring a bell. So until you start calling out those bad actors on your side you are nothing but a bigoted hypocrite especially when you continue to paint conservatives with that broad brush of yours.
                                As has been noted many times the decided majority of those outed as predators by the #MeToo movement have been liberals with a number of them masquerading as champions of women's rights.

                                I'd say the majority of the older conservative men around here were taught to treat women like ladies and it is from the left that such behavior is derided.
                                Last edited by rogue06; 01-17-2019, 05:10 AM.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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