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Originally posted by Tassman View PostNo. The sole meaning of 'submission’, is [I]“the action or fact of accepting or yielding to a superior force or to the will or authority of another person”.
21 submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Sparko and I are Christians, Paul encourages us to "submit to each other" out of reverence for Christ.
Which one of us is "yielding to a superior force or to the will or authority of another person"? Is it Sparko? Me? Both of us?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo, in your failed attempt to force a definition of an English word on the Greek text, how would you handle v 21, using your silly attempt at exegesis....
21 submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Sparko and I are Christians, Paul encourages us to "submit to each other" out of reverence for Christ.
Which one of us is "yielding to a superior force or to the will or authority of another person"? Is it Sparko? Me? Both of us?“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYou have not provided an alternative definition of “submit”.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post…and your wives?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSparko's not married, and I love mine, thanks for asking? Yours?“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostI loved my first wife dearly, as I do our beautiful grown-up daughter. And my current Thai wife of 15 years I also love. In both instances I have treated them with the same respect I try to show all people, male and female. This as opposed to expecting 'submission' from women as demanded in scripture...a hangover from the patriarchal era.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostGosh, Tass - you ONLY treat them with the same respect you try to show all people? My wife is WAY more special than that!
I hope your wife's knee is much better.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostI loved my first wife dearly, as I do our beautiful grown-up daughter. And my current Thai wife of 15 years I also love. In both instances I have treated them with the same respect I try to show all people, male and female. This as opposed to expecting 'submission' from women as demanded in scripture...a hangover from the patriarchal era.
Or does she just do whatever, and you're sitting at home wondering where she's off to and why your bank account is empty?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostI loved my first wife dearly, as I do our beautiful grown-up daughter. And my current Thai wife of 15 years I also love. In both instances I have treated them with the same respect I try to show all people, male and female. This as opposed to expecting 'submission' from women as demanded in scripture...a hangover from the patriarchal era."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd has your wife ever sought your permission to make a purchase? Or informed you that she's going out with friends for the evening? Because that's an act of submission and is exactly the sort of thing Paul is talking about.
Or does she just do whatever, and you're sitting at home wondering where she's off to and why your bank account is empty?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostGood point. (Gulp)
I hope your wife's knee is much better.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI find these things are decisions each couple needs to make. I find with kids takes more planning and informing for our evening activities than without does. The same I find true with buying decisions. Set limits for each other and don’t go over those limits without permission from the other. Are these all ‘acts of submission’ sure, but they are not nor should be one way.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI find these things are decisions each couple needs to make. I find with kids takes more planning and informing for our evening activities than without does. The same I find true with buying decisions. Set limits for each other and don’t go over those limits without permission from the other. Are these all ‘acts of submission’ sure, but they are not nor should be one way.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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