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    Quote Originally Posted by lee_merrill View Post
    Israeli scientists have developed what they hope will be a cure for cancer, it involves a three-factor medication, that evolution is not expected to be able to get past. So unlikely here would be a probability that is vanishingly small, and complex would here be the three factors. So these concepts are judgment calls, I'm not going to be able to give you an equation...

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    To add . . . this is not meaningful as the Lurch requested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLurch View Post
    Then why did you say a system with only two proteins was irreducibly complex?
    Because it can be a simple IC system, but the sort of IC system that design arguments are based on are more complex than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee_merrill View Post
    Because it can be a simple IC system, but the sort of IC system that design arguments are based on are more complex than this.

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    The design arguments have no foundation in the nature of complexity in life.
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    Well, I think it's time to stop here, the discussion has wandered far, and I've said all I have to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee_merrill View Post
    Well, I think it's time to stop here, the discussion has wandered far, and I've said all I have to say.

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    The original problems and answered with references very early in the thread concerning the misuse and misrepresentation of statistics and probability in the original article, which reflects the problems of those at the Discovery Institute.

    Bottom line is the Discovery Institute has not come up with any falsifiable hypothesis to support Intelligent Design.
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    Bringing this thread for references on probability and statistics used by fundamentalist creationists at the Discovery Institute and, of course. lee-merrill.
    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
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    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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