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  • #91
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Always goes without sayin'
    That's why I never say it.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by JimL View Post
      Democrats are perfectly willing to negotiate, but they are not willing to negotiate, and so succumb to the will of a terrorist hostage taker. What don't you understand about hostage negotiations?
      When have the Democrats ever negotiated to end a government shutdown, or entered negotiations post-shutdown as promised? I don't think you could back up your assertion even if you wanted to do so.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
        When have the Democrats ever negotiated to end a government shutdown, or entered negotiations post-shutdown as promised? I don't think you could back up your assertion even if you wanted to do so.
        Apparently you didn't get the point. The democrats shouldn't negotiate to end the shutdown. The whole point is that you don't negotiate with hostage takers who would put the lives of 800,000 government workers at risk in order to get what he wants. They already began negotiations and, like a whiney little baby, Trump walked out and shut down the government because he knew he wouldn't otherwise get what he wanted.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by JimL View Post
          Apparently you didn't get the point. The democrats shouldn't negotiate to end the shutdown. The whole point is that you don't negotiate with hostage takers who would put the lives of 800,000 government workers at risk in order to get what he wants. They already began negotiations and, like a whiney little baby, Trump walked out and shut down the government because he knew he wouldn't otherwise get what he wanted.
          I understood your narrative the first time. Can you answer my question?
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          • #95
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            I understood your narrative the first time. Can you answer my question?
            I just did. You don't negotiate with hostage takers, ergo, you don't negotiate to end the shutdown.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by JimL View Post
              I just did. You don't negotiate with hostage takers, ergo, you don't negotiate to end the shutdown.
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                Fake news.


                And don't forget his close ties to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska.


                Mueller is about as dirty as they come.
                https://nypost.com/2018/12/17/russia...tion-campaign/

                You are an unwitting Russian stooge. Sad!

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]34572[/ATTACH]
                  Good ol' Fritz Hollings.
                  Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                  Beige Federalist.

                  Nationalist Christian.

                  "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                  Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                  Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                  Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                  Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                  Justice for Matthew Perna!

                  Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Tassmoron View Post
                    https://nypost.com/2018/12/17/russia...tion-campaign/

                    You are an unwitting Russian stooge. Sad!
                    You obviously didn't bother to even glance at my sources, because they're well substantiated, in many cases with links to articles that predate the 2016 presidential campaign, and they don't say anything about "Islamic extremism".
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      I just did. You don't negotiate with hostage takers, ergo, you don't negotiate to end the shutdown.
                      My bad. I was under the impression you thought Trump was worserer by far than previous Republicans. Do I understand you correctly that you think every shutdown has always been a hostage situation, and that Republicans have always been the hostage takers, regardless of which branch of the government they happened to be controlling at the time?
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                      • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        My bad. I was under the impression you thought Trump was worserer by far than previous Republicans. Do I understand you correctly that you think every shutdown has always been a hostage situation, and that Republicans have always been the hostage takers, regardless of which branch of the government they happened to be controlling at the time?
                        Why would that be your understanding? I never mentioned other shutdowns. What I said is that in this instance the President is responsible for shutting down the government, causing untold damage to federal workers, including those employees working in institutions responsible for national security such as the Coast Gaurd, the FBI, and ironically the Border Patrol. And he is causing all of this damage and pain to families, institutions and the economy (1 billion a week) in order to get his way. Actually, being that I see Trump as a traitor anyway, a Russian asset in the White House, I believe he is only to happy to be causing all this chaos. Putin is certainly loving every bit of this administration, and so is his oligarch buddy Oleg Deripaska.!

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                        • Watching Jimmy dodge around OBP's question is hilarious.

                          Keep dancin' ya varmint!


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                          • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            Watching Jimmy dodge around OBP's question is hilarious.

                            Keep dancin' ya varmint!

                            At least I don't recall Yosemite Sam ever shooting himself in the foot as little jimmy often does.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

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                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              Why would that be your understanding? I never mentioned other shutdowns.
                              I mentioned other shutdowns. My question was entirely about other shutdowns. You claimed to have answered it. Do you wish to withdraw that claim?
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                              • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                You obviously didn't bother to even glance at my sources, because they're well substantiated, in many cases with links to articles that predate the 2016 presidential campaign, and they don't say anything about "Islamic extremism".
                                Correct, I didn't bother to glance at your sources. I don't take fringe conspiracy theories seriously, especially when no mainstream media outlet, including Trump's favorite Fox News, sees fit to take them seriously.

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