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  • #16
    They really want to send babies to the Good Shepherd's "orphanage", don't they? Though, I doubt they would claim that. They must not have any fear of the Lord. Hint: God is the true champion of the oppressed, not a certain beloved fictional character.
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    • #17
      If some serial killer went around murdering newborns, he would rightly be described as the most heinous of monsters, by even these liberals. Yet they smile and pat each other on the back as they pass laws making the very same thing legal for parents to do to their own children moments before they are born.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        If some serial killer went around murdering newborns, he would rightly be described as the most heinous of monsters, by even these liberals. Yet they smile and pat each other on the back as they pass laws making the very same thing legal for parents to do to their own children moments before they are born.
        They are rejoicing in iniquity.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          They are rejoicing in iniquity.
          Romans 1:32

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          • #20
            I'm not normally a fan of bishops taking action against a Catholic politician due to their positions being contrary to that of the church, even when it comes to abortion, but when it's something as extreme as this I don't think doing that to Cuomo would be unwarranted.

            I know Dolan (bishop of New York) has said he has no plans to excommunicate Cuomo, but he could at least take the step of banning him from communion like was done to Dick Durbin (albeit by another bishop).
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
              I'm not normally a fan of bishops taking action against a Catholic politician due to their positions being contrary to that of the church, even when it comes to abortion, but when it's something as extreme as this I don't think doing that to Cuomo would be unwarranted.

              I know Dolan (bishop of New York) has said he has no plans to excommunicate Cuomo, but he could at least take the step of banning him from communion like was done to Dick Durbin (albeit by another bishop).
              I'd think that openly espousing a mortal sin would be automatic grounds for excommunication. The RCC has a discipline problem, however, as evidenced by its abuse scandals.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                I'd think that openly espousing a mortal sin would be automatic grounds for excommunication. The RCC has a discipline problem, however, as evidenced by its abuse scandals.
                JP II and especially Francis have been big advocates for forgiveness and absolution but here there is no remorse, no repentance. In fact it is the exact opposite. Cuomo and his ilk are adamantly complacent in their celebration of this atrocity.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  JP II and especially Francis have been big advocates for forgiveness and absolution but here there is no remorse, no repentance. In fact it is the exact opposite. Cuomo and his ilk are adamantly complacent in their celebration of this atrocity.
                  That's what I mean by "openly espousing". There can be no remorse or repentance when that's going on. In the end, though, they'll end up before the Judgment Seat just like the rest of us.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    I'd think that openly espousing a mortal sin would be automatic grounds for excommunication.
                    I don't think it is, if this article is accurate:

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/relig...ortion-policy/

                    But, as noted, the path to simply denying someone communion is much simpler, and can be done simply for "obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin."

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                      ...for "obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin."
                      [Col Jessup] is there any other kind? [/Col Jessup]
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        The bit above about "the procedure could be done until the mother's due date if the woman's health is endangered or if the fetus is not viable." is a joke.

                        If the woman's life is at risk and the baby is more than 24 weeks old, they could just deliver the baby and it would survive instead of aborting it. They would have to deliver it after aborting it anyway, so to claim that they had to abort it to save the woman's life at that point would be a lie.

                        This law is pure evil and legalized murder.
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                        • #27
                          It looks like Virginia is making a bid to join New York in sliding into the pits of hell by allowing a baby to be aborted right up to the moment it is being born. Governor Ralph Northam (D - Va.), during an interview on WTOP-FM concerning a bill allowing abortions through the third trimester was asked about his take on it.

                          Source: Northam on Abortion Bill: Infant Could Be Delivered and Then �Physicians and the Mother� Could Decide If It Lives

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                          I don't see where Northman is explicitly advocating for post birth abortion so the headline may be misleading but he certainly wants to join in on the celebrating in New York

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                          • #28
                            and how do they define "viable?"

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                            • #29
                              So they want to allow a woman who may have mental health issues affected by giving birth to a baby make a decision about murdering said baby after it's born.



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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                It looks like Virginia is making a bid to join New York in sliding into the pits of hell by allowing a baby to be aborted right up to the moment it is being born. Governor Ralph Northam (D - Va.), during an interview on WTOP-FM concerning a bill allowing abortions through the third trimester was asked about his take on it.

                                Source: Northam on Abortion Bill: Infant Could Be Delivered and Then �Physicians and the Mother� Could Decide If It Lives

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                                © Copyright Original Source



                                I don't see where Northman is explicitly advocating for post birth abortion so the headline may be misleading but he certainly wants to join in on the celebrating in New York
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