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    No Election Fraud?

    Like we didn't know...

    Texas: 58K non-US citizens voted in elections over 22 years

    AUSTIN (KXAN) — An evaluation by the Texas Secretary of State's office discovered that about 95,000 people identified by the Texas Department of Public Safety as non-U.S. citizens have a matching voting registration record. The state claims 58,000 of those people voted in one or more state elections over 22 years.

    https://www.kxan.com/video/austin/ab...ons/1726285856

    https://www.sos.state.tx.us/election...y2019-02.shtml
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    Yawn. This often happens. The pattern is:

    1. Republican scaremongers and con-men use dodgy methodology to claim they have Totally concluded that thousands of illegal immigrants voted.
    2. Someone else comes along and looks at their methodology and their case falls apart completely, and its concluded that actually there were no illegal votes.
    3. Meanwhile, the Republicans use their dodgy data to purge the voting rolls as much as they can of ethnic minorities because they know those people are less likely to vote Republican and because they don't believe in fair elections. They also use claims of illegal immigrants to institute strict voter ID laws designed to make it difficult for poorer people to vote because they know those people are less likely to vote Republican and because they don't believe in fair elections.

    You'd think after 20+ instances of this same pattern happening, you guys here would be less gullible by now instead of falling for it yet again.

    Who knows though, this time I might be wrong... perhaps we'll see thousands of prosecutions start to happen as the AG starts prosecuting these cases. I laugh because what's actually going to happen is the AG is going to start looking into these referrals and keep finding they are actually all legal votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Yawn. This often happens. The pattern is:

    1. Republican scaremongers and con-men use dodgy methodology to claim they have Totally concluded that thousands of illegal immigrants voted.
    2. Someone else comes along and looks at their methodology and their case falls apart completely, and its concluded that actually there were no illegal votes.
    3. Meanwhile, the Republicans use their dodgy data to purge the voting rolls as much as they can of ethnic minorities because they know those people are less likely to vote Republican and because they don't believe in fair elections. They also use claims of illegal immigrants to institute strict voter ID laws designed to make it difficult for poorer people to vote because they know those people are less likely to vote Republican and because they don't believe in fair elections.

    You'd think after 20+ instances of this same pattern happening, you guys here would be less gullible by now instead of falling for it yet again.

    Who knows though, this time I might be wrong... perhaps we'll see thousands of prosecutions start to happen as the AG starts prosecuting these cases. I laugh because what's actually going to happen is the AG is going to start looking into these referrals and keep finding they are actually all legal votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Like we didn't know...

    And then there is this from a thread I started almost a month ago but those who claim to be agitated over Russian tampering as well as election fraud in general have studiously ignored it. Apparently they're perfectly okay with it if it helps them.

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    Source: A NY Times Reporter Spoke At An Event Organized By Alabama Dirty Tricksters


    New York Times reporter Scott Shane spoke at an event organized by the group who ran a disinformation op aimed at helping defeat Roy Moore in Alabama.


    Last week the New York Times revealed that money from tech billionaire Reid Hoffman was used to run a small disinformation “experiment” aimed at helping Democrat Doug Jones win last year’s Alabama special Senate election. That resulted in Facebook suspending five accounts and Hoffman issuing an apology.

    But left unmentioned in the Times story was that one of its authors learned about the Alabama campaign when he spoke at an off-the-record meeting organized by the same group who ran the operation. A copy of a confidential report about the Alabama effort, obtained by BuzzFeed News, raises new questions about whether the project was — as the Times said — an “experiment,” or whether it was a straightforward Democratic attempt to replicate the model of the Russian Internet Research Agency.

    Scott Shane, a Pulitzer Prize–winning New York Times national security reporter, was one of a handful of speakers at a meeting held in Washington in early September by American Engagement Technologies, according to an agenda obtained by BuzzFeed News. AET is run by Mikey Dickerson, who previously served in the Obama administration. The organization received $750,000 in funding that originated with Hoffman and spent approximately $100,000 of that on what was dubbed “Project Birmingham.”

    During the meeting, Dickerson and Sara Hudson, a former Justice Department employee who now works for a company partly funded by Hoffman, detailed the results of their attempt to use social media and online ads to suppress Republican votes, “enrage” Democratic voters to help with turnout, and execute a “false flag” to hurt the campaign of Republican Roy Moore.

    Shane told BuzzFeed News he did not know anything about Project Birmingham prior to accepting an invitation to speak about Russian disinformation at the AET event.

    “It was basically a bunch of people getting together to talk about disinformation,” he said. “Part of the reason I agreed to speak, and somewhat reluctantly sign the NDA, is I was told by the organizer that I could follow up with any of the people on any of the projects after the meeting.”





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    Raise your hand if you believe that this top New York Times reporter would have kept this "experiment" a secret if it were a conservative group doing it. For those of you who raised your hand I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale real cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Looking around, I cannot find any verification of this claim. As far as I can tell, the only source for that claim is a quote from this article which gives no actual proof of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Like we didn't know...
    You might want to look at the subsequent news stories. Apparently, what the Texas secretary of state did was to find 95,000 names of people that needed to be checked to verify citizenship - due to a previous non-citizenship status and some apparent duplication of names with known non-citizens. But Texas grants citizenship to some 50,000 people per year - and since this list dates back to 1996, it is an open question how many of the 95,000 have since obtained citizenship, and how many of the "matches" are erroneous. As has been shown previously using simple statistical analysis, the "duplicate" issue is most commonly a red herring - the vast majority of them are found NOT to be duplicates at all.

    So I think we should all take a deep breath and wait for that investigation to conclude, before we declare 95,000 non-residents and 58,000 votes on the roles. We don't know that yet. And the number of actual trials and convictions for actual voter fraud remains an insignificant trickle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terraceth View Post
    Looking around, I cannot find any verification of this claim. As far as I can tell, the only source for that claim is a quote from this article which gives no actual proof of it.
    I cannot find any either. It appears to be another "voter fraud meme" without an actual source. Furthermore, one has to wonder just how many people in California would use that excuse to avoid jury duty altogether...
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    I cannot find any either. It appears to be another "voter fraud meme" without an actual source. Furthermore, one has to wonder just how many people in California would use that excuse to avoid jury duty altogether...
    On a side note, California has been working since 2013 to remove the citizenship requirement from jury service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    On a side note, California has been working since 2013 to remove the citizenship requirement from jury service.
    Well - that's one way to expand the pool of potential jurists.
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