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  • No Election Fraud?

    Like we didn't know...

    Texas: 58K non-US citizens voted in elections over 22 years

    AUSTIN (KXAN) — An evaluation by the Texas Secretary of State's office discovered that about 95,000 people identified by the Texas Department of Public Safety as non-U.S. citizens have a matching voting registration record. The state claims 58,000 of those people voted in one or more state elections over 22 years.

    https://www.kxan.com/video/austin/ab...ons/1726285856

    https://www.sos.state.tx.us/election...y2019-02.shtml
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  • #2
    Well, ShaZAAAAAAaaaaaaam.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      Yawn. This often happens. The pattern is:

      1. Republican scaremongers and con-men use dodgy methodology to claim they have Totally concluded that thousands of illegal immigrants voted.
      2. Someone else comes along and looks at their methodology and their case falls apart completely, and its concluded that actually there were no illegal votes.
      3. Meanwhile, the Republicans use their dodgy data to purge the voting rolls as much as they can of ethnic minorities because they know those people are less likely to vote Republican and because they don't believe in fair elections. They also use claims of illegal immigrants to institute strict voter ID laws designed to make it difficult for poorer people to vote because they know those people are less likely to vote Republican and because they don't believe in fair elections.

      You'd think after 20+ instances of this same pattern happening, you guys here would be less gullible by now instead of falling for it yet again.

      Who knows though, this time I might be wrong... perhaps we'll see thousands of prosecutions start to happen as the AG starts prosecuting these cases. I laugh because what's actually going to happen is the AG is going to start looking into these referrals and keep finding they are actually all legal votes.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        Yawn. This often happens. The pattern is:

        1. Republican scaremongers and con-men use dodgy methodology to claim they have Totally concluded that thousands of illegal immigrants voted.
        2. Someone else comes along and looks at their methodology and their case falls apart completely, and its concluded that actually there were no illegal votes.
        3. Meanwhile, the Republicans use their dodgy data to purge the voting rolls as much as they can of ethnic minorities because they know those people are less likely to vote Republican and because they don't believe in fair elections. They also use claims of illegal immigrants to institute strict voter ID laws designed to make it difficult for poorer people to vote because they know those people are less likely to vote Republican and because they don't believe in fair elections.

        You'd think after 20+ instances of this same pattern happening, you guys here would be less gullible by now instead of falling for it yet again.

        Who knows though, this time I might be wrong... perhaps we'll see thousands of prosecutions start to happen as the AG starts prosecuting these cases. I laugh because what's actually going to happen is the AG is going to start looking into these referrals and keep finding they are actually all legal votes.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          Like we didn't know...

          And then there is this from a thread I started almost a month ago but those who claim to be agitated over Russian tampering as well as election fraud in general have studiously ignored it. Apparently they're perfectly okay with it if it helps them.
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          Source: A NY Times Reporter Spoke At An Event Organized By Alabama Dirty Tricksters


          New York Times reporter Scott Shane spoke at an event organized by the group who ran a disinformation op aimed at helping defeat Roy Moore in Alabama.


          Last week the New York Times revealed that money from tech billionaire Reid Hoffman was used to run a small disinformation “experiment” aimed at helping Democrat Doug Jones win last year’s Alabama special Senate election. That resulted in Facebook suspending five accounts and Hoffman issuing an apology.

          But left unmentioned in the Times story was that one of its authors learned about the Alabama campaign when he spoke at an off-the-record meeting organized by the same group who ran the operation. A copy of a confidential report about the Alabama effort, obtained by BuzzFeed News, raises new questions about whether the project was — as the Times said — an “experiment,” or whether it was a straightforward Democratic attempt to replicate the model of the Russian Internet Research Agency.

          Scott Shane, a Pulitzer Prize–winning New York Times national security reporter, was one of a handful of speakers at a meeting held in Washington in early September by American Engagement Technologies, according to an agenda obtained by BuzzFeed News. AET is run by Mikey Dickerson, who previously served in the Obama administration. The organization received $750,000 in funding that originated with Hoffman and spent approximately $100,000 of that on what was dubbed “Project Birmingham.”

          During the meeting, Dickerson and Sara Hudson, a former Justice Department employee who now works for a company partly funded by Hoffman, detailed the results of their attempt to use social media and online ads to suppress Republican votes, “enrage” Democratic voters to help with turnout, and execute a “false flag” to hurt the campaign of Republican Roy Moore.

          Shane told BuzzFeed News he did not know anything about Project Birmingham prior to accepting an invitation to speak about Russian disinformation at the AET event.

          “It was basically a bunch of people getting together to talk about disinformation,” he said. “Part of the reason I agreed to speak, and somewhat reluctantly sign the NDA, is I was told by the organizer that I could follow up with any of the people on any of the projects after the meeting.”





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          Raise your hand if you believe that this top New York Times reporter would have kept this "experiment" a secret if it were a conservative group doing it. For those of you who raised your hand I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale real cheap.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
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            Looking around, I cannot find any verification of this claim. As far as I can tell, the only source for that claim is a quote from this article which gives no actual proof of it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by seer View Post
              Like we didn't know...
              You might want to look at the subsequent news stories. Apparently, what the Texas secretary of state did was to find 95,000 names of people that needed to be checked to verify citizenship - due to a previous non-citizenship status and some apparent duplication of names with known non-citizens. But Texas grants citizenship to some 50,000 people per year - and since this list dates back to 1996, it is an open question how many of the 95,000 have since obtained citizenship, and how many of the "matches" are erroneous. As has been shown previously using simple statistical analysis, the "duplicate" issue is most commonly a red herring - the vast majority of them are found NOT to be duplicates at all.

              So I think we should all take a deep breath and wait for that investigation to conclude, before we declare 95,000 non-residents and 58,000 votes on the roles. We don't know that yet. And the number of actual trials and convictions for actual voter fraud remains an insignificant trickle.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                Looking around, I cannot find any verification of this claim. As far as I can tell, the only source for that claim is a quote from this article which gives no actual proof of it.
                I cannot find any either. It appears to be another "voter fraud meme" without an actual source. Furthermore, one has to wonder just how many people in California would use that excuse to avoid jury duty altogether...
                The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                  I cannot find any either. It appears to be another "voter fraud meme" without an actual source. Furthermore, one has to wonder just how many people in California would use that excuse to avoid jury duty altogether...
                  On a side note, California has been working since 2013 to remove the citizenship requirement from jury service.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    On a side note, California has been working since 2013 to remove the citizenship requirement from jury service.
                    Well - that's one way to expand the pool of potential jurists.
                    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                    I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                    • #11
                      Last week, the Department of Justice announced that in March, a former Philadelphia election official admitted to, and was convicted of, accepting bribes to stuff ballots for three Democrat candidates for Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge. He admitted to inflating the votes in primaries in years 2014 through 2016. He purportedly committed the fraud by standing in a voting booth and voting multiple times. That he acted alone seems unlikely. In Pennsylvania, each polling place must have a minimum of five poll workers to open and operate. They all work for thirteen hours – where were they? This trick could explain why some Philadelphia precincts end up, unabashedly, on election nights with more total votes than registered voters, and an outcome producing 100% of the votes for Democrat candidates. This case is not an isolated incident, as other cases of altering vote counts have been successfully prosecuted.

                      In Pennsylvania, more insidious than the overt fraud just exposed by the Justice Department, are the myriad subtler ways in which perhaps more systematized election fraud occurs. Out-of-date voter rolls often list multiple names at the same address. Deceased voters may not be immediately purged. Once an individual has voted in Pennsylvania, a poll worker is not permitted to ask for identification. If that individual keeps voting, their name remains on the rolls without question. That’s how dead people vote. That’s how multiple residents at the same address vote. Moreover, if a live voter has recently moved, it is possible they can vote in two different polling places. In the past few years, Pennsylvanians have been successfully prosecuted for: fraudulent use of absentee ballots, either through forgery, or filing without the real voter’s knowledge; duplicate voting; ineligible voting due to lack of citizenship; and, multiple registrations both inside and out of state. These abuses frequently occur in other states as well.

                      In 2019, Democrat Gov. Tom Wolf signed a law that all registered voters could apply for an absentee ballot without having to provide a reason. Previously, one could only vote absentee by stating on the application that one would be out of state on election day or was physically prevented from voting in person. As previously reported, Wolf enacted one of the more stringent COVID-19 stay-at-home mandates in the country – closing the entire state to all but essential workers. Pennsylvania’s primary was delayed because of the COVID-19 pandemic and ensuing stay at home mandates. Large parts of Pennsylvania cannot reopen until two days after the new primary date of June 2, 2020, and most polling places have been relocated. Predictably, chaos reigns; the likelihood of fraud has spiked. Moreover, Wolf and election board officials are encouraging voters to vote by write-in ballot. Stay home, they exhort. President Trump has a different message and has correctly pointed out the propensity for fraud and election theft when distance voting is the norm.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                        Well - that's one way to expand the pool of potential jurists.
                        It's also a way to violate my rights to have a jury of my peers.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          Last week, the Department of Justice announced that in March, a former Philadelphia election official admitted to, and was convicted of, accepting bribes to stuff ballots for three Democrat candidates for Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge. He admitted to inflating the votes in primaries in years 2014 through 2016. He purportedly committed the fraud by standing in a voting booth and voting multiple times. That he acted alone seems unlikely. In Pennsylvania, each polling place must have a minimum of five poll workers to open and operate. They all work for thirteen hours – where were they? This trick could explain why some Philadelphia precincts end up, unabashedly, on election nights with more total votes than registered voters, and an outcome producing 100% of the votes for Democrat candidates. This case is not an isolated incident, as other cases of altering vote counts have been successfully prosecuted.

                          In Pennsylvania, more insidious than the overt fraud just exposed by the Justice Department, are the myriad subtler ways in which perhaps more systematized election fraud occurs. Out-of-date voter rolls often list multiple names at the same address. Deceased voters may not be immediately purged. Once an individual has voted in Pennsylvania, a poll worker is not permitted to ask for identification. If that individual keeps voting, their name remains on the rolls without question. That’s how dead people vote. That’s how multiple residents at the same address vote. Moreover, if a live voter has recently moved, it is possible they can vote in two different polling places. In the past few years, Pennsylvanians have been successfully prosecuted for: fraudulent use of absentee ballots, either through forgery, or filing without the real voter’s knowledge; duplicate voting; ineligible voting due to lack of citizenship; and, multiple registrations both inside and out of state. These abuses frequently occur in other states as well.

                          In 2019, Democrat Gov. Tom Wolf signed a law that all registered voters could apply for an absentee ballot without having to provide a reason. Previously, one could only vote absentee by stating on the application that one would be out of state on election day or was physically prevented from voting in person. As previously reported, Wolf enacted one of the more stringent COVID-19 stay-at-home mandates in the country – closing the entire state to all but essential workers. Pennsylvania’s primary was delayed because of the COVID-19 pandemic and ensuing stay at home mandates. Large parts of Pennsylvania cannot reopen until two days after the new primary date of June 2, 2020, and most polling places have been relocated. Predictably, chaos reigns; the likelihood of fraud has spiked. Moreover, Wolf and election board officials are encouraging voters to vote by write-in ballot. Stay home, they exhort. President Trump has a different message and has correctly pointed out the propensity for fraud and election theft when distance voting is the norm.

                          https://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._election.html
                          Help me out here. You give an example of cheating using electronic voting equipment. This is equipment which I think Democrats would be happy to get rid of and exclusively use hand marked paper ballots. Then you make the jump to saying the problem is with mail in ballots?

                          Don't get it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DivineBoob View Post
                            Help me out here. You give an example of cheating using electronic voting equipment. This is equipment which I think Democrats would be happy to get rid of and exclusively use hand marked paper ballots. Then you make the jump to saying the problem is with mail in ballots?

                            Don't get it.
                            You obviously didn't read the source. Again.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              You obviously didn't read the source. Again.
                              I read your summary. If your summary failed to summarize then that's not my fault.

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