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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI would tend to recommend against that. MM's articles tend to be so full of falsehoods, misleading claims, and general nonsense, that it probably lowers the IQ of anyone exposed to them.
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Originally posted by DivineBoob View PostI read your summary. If your summary failed to summarize then that's not my fault.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt's also a way to violate my rights to have a jury of my peers.
I have a friend who has been in-country for 20 years now. He has a green card - but has never pursued citizenship. Yet he knows this country well, considers it home, and has been my colleague for 20 years. In any real way, I consider him my "peer." Citizenship has little/nothing to do with it.
Does a peer have to be "exactly like you?" Presumably not. If not, then what differences are and are not permitted? At what point do they cease to be your peer?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostLast week, the Department of Justice announced that in March, a former Philadelphia election official admitted to, and was convicted of, accepting bribes to stuff ballots for three Democrat candidates for Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge. He admitted to inflating the votes in primaries in years 2014 through 2016. He purportedly committed the fraud by standing in a voting booth and voting multiple times. That he acted alone seems unlikely. In Pennsylvania, each polling place must have a minimum of five poll workers to open and operate. They all work for thirteen hours – where were they? This trick could explain why some Philadelphia precincts end up, unabashedly, on election nights with more total votes than registered voters, and an outcome producing 100% of the votes for Democrat candidates. This case is not an isolated incident, as other cases of altering vote counts have been successfully prosecuted.
In Pennsylvania, more insidious than the overt fraud just exposed by the Justice Department, are the myriad subtler ways in which perhaps more systematized election fraud occurs. Out-of-date voter rolls often list multiple names at the same address. Deceased voters may not be immediately purged. Once an individual has voted in Pennsylvania, a poll worker is not permitted to ask for identification. If that individual keeps voting, their name remains on the rolls without question. That’s how dead people vote. That’s how multiple residents at the same address vote. Moreover, if a live voter has recently moved, it is possible they can vote in two different polling places. In the past few years, Pennsylvanians have been successfully prosecuted for: fraudulent use of absentee ballots, either through forgery, or filing without the real voter’s knowledge; duplicate voting; ineligible voting due to lack of citizenship; and, multiple registrations both inside and out of state. These abuses frequently occur in other states as well.
In 2019, Democrat Gov. Tom Wolf signed a law that all registered voters could apply for an absentee ballot without having to provide a reason. Previously, one could only vote absentee by stating on the application that one would be out of state on election day or was physically prevented from voting in person. As previously reported, Wolf enacted one of the more stringent COVID-19 stay-at-home mandates in the country – closing the entire state to all but essential workers. Pennsylvania’s primary was delayed because of the COVID-19 pandemic and ensuing stay at home mandates. Large parts of Pennsylvania cannot reopen until two days after the new primary date of June 2, 2020, and most polling places have been relocated. Predictably, chaos reigns; the likelihood of fraud has spiked. Moreover, Wolf and election board officials are encouraging voters to vote by write-in ballot. Stay home, they exhort. President Trump has a different message and has correctly pointed out the propensity for fraud and election theft when distance voting is the norm.
https://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._election.html
The people manning the polling places can commit fraud, so it is important for polling stations to be manned by trustworthy people and to have safeguards in place (i.e., no one works alone) to help protect against this.
As for absentee voting, that is all I have done for the last 20 years, even when I am in town. Again, I request the ballot, it is sent to me by mail or I pick it up, and my name is recorded as receiving an absentee ballot. I cannot vote in person once I have made that request. If my ballot is lost, it is lost and I am out of luck.
I also note this article is pretty strongly slanted to anti-democrat views and apparently ignores the instances of voter fraud perpetrated by Republicans. It also tries to paint as "common" (largely through unsupported insinuation) and problem that study after study has shown to be rare. Even groups trying to build a database of documented voter fraud have found themselves with just over a thousand instances of voter fraud nationwide over a 20 year period of voting, a period during which billions of votes were cast, making the fraud rate less than 0.000001%. Any business in the world would drool to achieve an error rate so low.
Once again, the "boogeyman" of voter fraud is being raised to achieve one and only one end: reduce voter turnout. Why? Because most Republicans know that when voters turn out - Democrats tend to win. And reductions in voter turn out typically are skewed to the poor and minorities, which again directly targets Democratic voter turnout. It is part and parcel of a "win at any cost" model the Republican party has adopted - even if it disenfranchises their own fellow citizens.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostI read your summary. If your summary failed to summarize then that's not my fault.
He also does that when responding to posters. He regularly takes single sentences or fragments out of context, often changing their meaning in the process. With MM, always follow the links to get the full story. You cannot trust the fragments he posts.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYou have to be careful with MM. His SOP is to extract a piece of an article, sometimes even single sentences or even fragments of sentences, that paint a picture he wants to paint. He provides the link to the original article, presumably to salve his conscience. When you go to the actual article, most of the time you will find that what MM has presented is not what the article is saying or concluding. In other words - he cherry picks pieces of articles to support his pre-existing conclusion.
He also does that when responding to posters. He regularly takes single sentences or fragments out of context, often changing their meaning in the process. With MM, always follow the links to get the full story. You cannot trust the fragments he posts.Last edited by DivineOb; 05-29-2020, 12:07 PM.
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Originally posted by seer View PostLike we didn't know...Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-29-2020, 12:14 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Not sure if this was brought up here, but... yeah...
NJ NAACP Leader Calls For Paterson Mail-In Vote to Be Canceled Amid Corruption Claims
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostWith MM, always follow the links to get the full story.
And I ALWAYS provide sources.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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