Holocaust study: Two-thirds of millennials don’t know what Auschwitz is

[Bill the Cat]

Which is an article about how the super-wealthy have supported Republicans over the Democrats in all but one election in the last 50 years, thus proving my point and disproving yours. Care to punch yourself in the face some more?

Good Lord man can you be any more stupid? The democrats are replacing the republicans as the party of the rich. That disprove your point that currently the rich favor the republicans. But please do continue acting like an idiot because you do it so well

[Starlight]

What an elitist snob you are.

Ok. That's probably the first accurate criticism of me that I've received from any conservatives in all my years of posting on this forum. Well done for finally being right about something. There should probably be a medal to commemorate you finally getting something right on this forum.

[rogue06]

Which is an article about how the super-wealthy have supported Republicans over the Democrats in all but one election in the last 50 years, thus proving my point and disproving yours. Care to punch yourself in the face some more?

We've been over this. Several times. The mega-donors have been contributing to the Democrats for the past few elections.

[Sparko]

If you're asking for factual demographic data as to which US demographics are more likely to identify as conservative, then the answer is uneducated, rich, old, white, evangelical.

If you're asking for my personal opinion, then I think rich, stupid, elderly, selfish, greedy, uneducated and racist pretty much sums it up, yes.

Ah so no personal bias at all. Good to know.

[Bill the Cat]

Ok. That's probably the first accurate criticism of me that I've received from any conservatives in all my years of posting on this forum. Well done for finally being right about something. There should probably be a medal to commemorate you finally getting something right on this forum.

Dumbass

[Starlight]

We've been over this. Several times. The mega-donors have been contributing to the Democrats for the past few elections.

It amuses me you seem to have convinced yourself this is true despite how many times you've been shown to be wrong. It's interesting though from a psychological perspective that many conservatives seem to see a need to convince themselves that they are really Not the party of big business and big money.

I suggest you take a step back and look at the basics... the Democrats' literal first bill they passed after taking the House this year clamped down on big-money in politics and it passed along party lines. The Republicans didn't want a bar of that bill. So guess who the politicians think the big money is donating to? Similarly Democrats have tried to pass constitutional amendments to get money out of politics, and the Republicans keep voting them down... guess which party's politicians know they are benefiting more than the other party from the corruption?

[lilpixieofterror]

It amuses me you seem to have convinced yourself this is true despite how many times you've been shown to be wrong. It's interesting though from a psychological perspective that many conservatives seem to see a need to convince themselves that they are really Not the party of big business and big money.

I suggest you take a step back and look at the basics... the Democrats' literal first bill they passed after taking the House this year clamped down on big-money in politics and it passed along party lines. The Republicans didn't want a bar of that bill. So guess who the politicians think the big money is donating to? Similarly Democrats have tried to pass constitutional amendments to get money out of politics, and the Republicans keep voting them down... guess which party's politicians know they are benefiting more than the other party from the corruption?

It’s amusing how Mr PhD fails to understand that the Democrats are playing to their base and knew that such a bill had zero chance of passing, but the Statlight’s of the US would eat it up. If Democrats were interested in ending big money from politics they had time to do so and failed to do it.

[rogue06]

It amuses me you seem to have convinced yourself this is true despite how many times you've been shown to be wrong. It's interesting though from a psychological perspective that many conservatives seem to see a need to convince themselves that they are really Not the party of big business and big money.

I suggest you take a step back and look at the basics... the Democrats' literal first bill they passed after taking the House this year clamped down on big-money in politics and it passed along party lines. The Republicans didn't want a bar of that bill. So guess who the politicians think the big money is donating to? Similarly Democrats have tried to pass constitutional amendments to get money out of politics, and the Republicans keep voting them down... guess which party's politicians know they are benefiting more than the other party from the corruption?

For someone who so desperately wants everyone to believe that he's the smartest, most educated person in whatever room he enters, you sure are gullible.

It is common for politicians, regardless of their political views, to propose or support measures purely for show, confident that they haven't a snowball's chance in hell of passing. Just look at all the B.S. that many Democrats were saying about barriers and border security just a few years ago. Now that it looks like it could well come to pass they reveal their true colors and fight tooth and nail against it.

The fact is that the majority of big money donors are now backing the Democrats and have been for awhile now.

[RumTumTugger]

Perhaps you've never considered that, in many cases, 'the more educated a person is' is simply a function of their butt being in the right seats for the right duration of time. How smart is it to go thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to get a piece of paper that 'overqualifies' you from getting a job to pay that debt off? Yeah, absolutely GENIUS!

Don't be to hard on Starlight he wasn't brought up in the times you and I were CP where the schools universities taught us how to think. Starlight was brought up in the times where the schools and universities tell you what to think.

[RumTumTugger]

And you still manage to write the crazy things you do in this forum? The mind boggles as to how someone so educated can be so dumb so often.

still haven't invested in a Monitor yet Starlight?

[Starlight]

It is common for politicians, regardless of their political views, to propose or support measures purely for show, confident that they haven't a snowball's chance in hell of passing.

I don't think you can wave this off with conspiracy theories, when there are quite a number of politicians now who put their lack-of-big-money where their mouth is and run their whole campaigns without big donor money as part of their political platform. 100% of such politicians I am aware of that do this are Democrats: Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 6 other Justice Democrats, Beto O'Rouke to a limited extent, etc.

The fact that the politicians who actually do this are all Democrats, and no Republicans do this, simply confirms what side of this issue the parties are generally on.

Just look at all the B.S. that many Democrats were saying about barriers and border security just a few years ago.

The democratic voter base is fairly evenly split on whether they want high immigration, or want to implement strong border security and keep immigration a bit lower. Democratic politicians in general both a few years ago and now have generally leaned towards the second, more conservative view. As such they have consistently supported funding for basic barriers, border patrols, hi-tech border security etc.

The "Wall" itself though is an utterly moronic idea which doesn't make sense on almost any level of engineering, security, environment, land ownership etc and wouldn't be effective at securing the border. Hence the majority of Democratic politicians are still against the idiotic Wall, but remain happy to fund hi-tech border security etc.

[Terraceth]

We've been over this. Several times. The mega-donors have been contributing to the Democrats for the past few elections.

Could you provide evidence of this? I remember seeing someone argue this a while ago with some evidence, but I can't remember the specifics.

[Bill the Cat]

Could you provide evidence of this? I remember seeing someone argue this a while ago with some evidence, but I can't remember the specifics.

https://capitalresearch.org/article/party-one-percent/

As journalists and scholars have shown in recent years, affluent Americans are concentrated in certain neighborhoods to a considerable extent—indeed, to a greater extent than in the past. Bill Bishop in his 2008 book The Big Sort illustrated how people with similar levels of education, income and wealth, and cultural attitudes have increasingly clustered in places filled with others of similar characteristics. The social scientist Charles Murray in his 2012 book Coming Apart showed how those at the very top of these scales are clustered in zip codes that he christened, “SuperZips.”

CRC’s study asks to which party do such people—who are much more likely than the ordinary voter to be able to afford sizeable discretionary spending—contribute their money?
The overall answer is that more money from the top 300 SuperZips in 2013–14 went to Democrats than Republicans, by a significant but not overwhelming margin, if you set aside those contributions over $1 million made by wealthy individuals to their own campaigns. (The largest self-funder in the cycle was Republican Bruce Rauner, who was elected governor of Illinois, but six of the ten largest self-funders in the cycle were Democrats. Seven of the ten failed to win election.)

Democrats have an even greater advantage when one focuses on the contributions—again, aside from those of million-dollar-plus self-funders—made by the lucky persons who live in neighborhoods and towns that have long been notably elite. These are the 14 locales Charles Murray identified as famously elite since at least 1960, including Chicago’s North Shore, Boston’s Brookline, the Philadelphia Main Line, Manhattan’s Upper East Side, and the like.4 From these elegant precincts, Democrats raised twice as much money as Republicans—$82 million to $41 million.

When examining the Big Four metropolitan-area zip codes, CRC broadens its analysis from the top 1.4 percent to the top 5 percent in socio-economic status. Among this elite, we find the Democrats raising $179 million and the Republicans $93 million. The numbers are even more skewed if we narrow that universe down to the core county or city in each metro area, and omit million-dollar-plus self-funders; that leaves Democrats garnering $96 million, compared to a mere $30 million for Republicans. In percentage terms, Democrats are receiving 66 percent (in the broader metro areas) and 76 percent (in the core areas) of the money contributed to partisan campaigns in these locales—an overwhelming advantage.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/07/o...-the-rich.html

In 2014, the median income of households in Democratic districts was higher than in Republican districts, $53,358 to $51,834. Democrats represent seven of the 10 most affluent districts, measured by household income (four in California, two in Virginia and one in New York). Democrats also represent a majority of the 100 most affluent districts, 54-46.

https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topindivs.php

48 of the top 100 mega-donors lean or are solidly Republican
52 of the top 100 mega-donors lean or are solidly Democrat

[One Bad Pig]

It's always interesting to see people fervently hold mutually contradictory positions like "conservatives are dumb, liberals are bright" and "conservatives get all the big money".

[rogue06]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5ebc13934a91


Two-thirds of American millennials surveyed in a recent poll cannot identify what Auschwitz is, according to a study released on Holocaust Remembrance Day that found that knowledge of the genocide that killed 6 million Jews during World War II is not robust among American adults.

Twenty-two percent of millennials in the poll said they haven’t heard of the Holocaust or are not sure whether they’ve heard of it — twice the percentage of U.S. adults as a whole who said the same.
The study, conducted by the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, interviewed 1,350 American adults in February and recruited by telephone and an online non-probability sample.
Asked to identify what Auschwitz is, 41 percent of respondents and 66 percent of millennials could not come up with a correct response identifying it as a concentration camp or extermination camp.

Just so that it is clear this isn't just an "ignorant American" problem, a similar lack of knowledge can be seen across the pond -- and this happened in their backyard (so to speak) along with an apparent reemergence of Antisemitism to boot.

Source: Third of Europeans know little or nothing about Holocaust: poll

More than a quarter of those surveyed said Jews have too much influence in business and finance.


Anti-Semitic stereotypes are widespread in Europe, with more than a quarter of Europeans saying Jews have too much influence in business and finance, according to a poll published Tuesday.

According to the CNN/ComRes survey into European attitudes towards Jews, 34 percent of Europeans surveyed said they knew just a little or had never heard of the Holocaust, while 20 percent of French people between the ages of 18 and 34 said they had never heard of the Holocaust.


A third of Europeans said Jewish people use the Holocaust to advance their own positions or goals, according to the poll, for which 7,000 people across Europe were surveyed in September.

Karen Pollock, chief executive of the U.K. Holocaust Educational Trust, told CNN the poll confirmed "a worrying increase in the number of people who believe traditional anti-Semitic tropes or hold anti-Semitic views, as well as a disappointing lack of knowledge about the Holocaust."

Earlier this month French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe said anti-Semitism is on the rise in France, with a jump in anti-Semitic incidents in the first nine months of this year. Although Philippe did not specify how many acts had been committed this year, Le Monde said there had been 311 such incidents in 2017.


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