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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    You wear a man bun, don't you?
    Had to Google that. No.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      She had a slip of the tongue...
      The poor girl is constantly putting her mouth in motion before engaging her brain.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        The poor girl is constantly putting her mouth in motion before engaging her brain.
        Not at all.

        But have anyone talk in enough interviews and they occasionally have a slip of the tongue that they immediately correct. Even professionals who have been on TV for years like Colbert do it.
        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          Not at all.

          But have anyone talk in enough interviews and they occasionally have a slip of the tongue that they immediately correct. Even professionals who have been on TV for years like Colbert do it.
          You're right Star! She's doing a FANTASTIC job! I hope she never changes.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by guacamole View Post
            Are they trying to get all of that or just move the window?
            They would like to get it if they can. The basic idea is that the Great Depression was a big challenge which FDR rose to meet with the New Deal - taxation of the rich to fund social spending, and Climate Change is the big challenge of our generation so we should rise to meet it with a similar series of bold policies - taxation of the rich to fund strong investment in green tech and green jobs.
            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              She had a slip of the tongue
              She certainly has a lot of them.

              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              and immediately corrected herself in the following sentence.
              Her next sentence was "I will keep vigilance." And where do you get that she was laughing about this? This seems a rather unique defense, one that I hadn't heard her supporters offer before.

              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              but with AOC you all seem to fall over each other with as many as a dozen misquotes
              Keep telling yourself that they're "misquotes." The fact is she keeps screwing up in the very short time in the public eye. If it were Trump you'd be vehemently denouncing her screw ups as lies.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                The poor girl is constantly putting her mouth in motion before engaging her brain.
                smiley self inflicted.gif

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  You're right Star! She's doing a FANTASTIC job! I hope she never changes.
                  She is doing a fantastic job. Her polling favorables are through the roof and she's attracting young people to the democratic party by the boatload. She's got the biggest social media following and is giving fellow Dems courses in how to use social media properly. She's personable, charismatic, policy-focused, progressive, intelligent and quick-witted, pretty much everything I could wish for in a politician - she might well be the single best politician overall I have ever seen in my life in any country. Presumably she'll get even better with experience. She's got a very bright career ahead of her - hard to imagine her not being president one day.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    She is doing a fantastic job.
                    Absobloominutely!!! I hope she keeps it up!
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      She wants NO cars or airplanes by TWELVE YEARS from now...
                      I think I saw today where you got this crazy end of the stick from. In an interview she said she would like the US to aim to be carbon neutral in 12 years.

                      Being carbon neutral, aka being a "net zero carbon emitter", is not at all the same as emitting zero carbon, it means that carbon emissions be balanced by carbon absorption. As you may be aware, plants absorb CO2 out of the atmosphere as part of their growth, so all countries have quite large amounts of carbon absorption due to all their trees and forests and plants in general. There are also various technologies being developed and improved upon that can also take carbon out of the atmosphere and store it various ways, but currently trees are pretty much the most efficient. So in order to achieve net zero carbon emissions the US would want to (a) plant more trees, (b) transition the vehicle fleet from gas to electric, (c) transition the power grid from fossil fuels to renewables, etc.

                      Being carbon neutral / a net-zero carbon emitter has nothing to do with "NO cars or airplanes" as you put it.
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        I think I saw today where you got this crazy end of the stick from. In an interview she said she would like the US to aim to be carbon neutral in 12 years.

                        Being carbon neutral, aka being a "net zero carbon emitter", is not at all the same as emitting zero carbon, it means that carbon emissions be balanced by carbon absorption. As you may be aware, plants absorb CO2 out of the atmosphere as part of their growth, so all countries have quite large amounts of carbon absorption due to all their trees and forests and plants in general. There are also various technologies being developed and improved upon that can also take carbon out of the atmosphere and store it various ways, but currently trees are pretty much the most efficient. So in order to achieve net zero carbon emissions the US would want to (a) plant more trees, (b) transition the vehicle fleet from gas to electric, (c) transition the power grid from fossil fuels to renewables, etc.

                        Being carbon neutral / a net-zero carbon emitter has nothing to do with "NO cars or airplanes" as you put it.
                        That makes sense that that's what she meant to say, but whoever interviewed her tried to help her by rephrasing the question, but she kept doubling down. It appeared they were as incredulous as I was. Since I can't find the video - and I've really tried - I'll abandon the claim, but I know what I saw.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          That makes sense that that's what she meant to say, but whoever interviewed her tried to help her by rephrasing the question, but she kept doubling down. It appeared they were as incredulous as I was. Since I can't find the video - and I've really tried - I'll abandon the claim, but I know what I saw.
                          In the interview I saw, the interviewer treated the carbon neutral goal as meaning a transition to 100% electric cars within 12 years and so started asking about that.

                          She's pretty clear and well-informed about environmental issues and it's something she talks about a lot. I find it unlikely she would have mis-phrased it multiple times in a row.
                          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            In the interview I saw, the interviewer treated the carbon neutral goal as meaning a transition to 100% electric cars within 12 years and so started asking about that.

                            She's pretty clear and well-informed about environmental issues and it's something she talks about a lot. I find it unlikely she would have mis-phrased it multiple times in a row.
                            I'll leave you to your delusion that she's actually an intelligent woman. After all, you idolize Rachel, no?
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              I'll leave you to your delusion that she's actually an intelligent woman.
                              You guys are so silly. I find it hilarious you've somehow managed to convince yourselves she's not intelligent.

                              After all, you idolize Rachel, no?
                              No, I think you might be confusing me with FirstFloor on that one.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                I'll leave you to your delusion that she's actually an intelligent woman. After all, you idolize Rachel, no?
                                I think you're confusing him with firstfloor (or perhaps JimL). He might be in the fan club too, but I don't recall him saying that.
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