Trump’s presidency was a divine plan

[Charles]

Interesting stuff:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-bless-america

I'd be interested in knowing if anyone here agrees with Sanders on this.

[mikewhitney]

The article could "oh my. someone still believes that God exists."

Isn't it funny that how the writer didn't even know that the US is never supposed to be a democracy?

Sanders may know better than any of us whether God has chosen Trump to help preserve the nation. What would be wrong with that?

The other odd thing is that people would be so concerned that Sanders expresses this viewpoint. Go figure.

[rogue06]

Interesting stuff:



https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-bless-america

I'd be interested in knowing if anyone here agrees with Sanders on this.

While I don't know if God has specifically selected Trump for anything, the Bible clearly demonstrates that folks nobody would ever think of being someone He would use often get selected. Look at Paul for instance. He delighted in hunting down and dragging Christians back to be persecuted. As he said



Who would ever think that such a man would be selected by God to be his greatest spokesman for the religion he had been gleefully oppressing.

Now, don't get me wrong here, I'm definitely not saying that Trump is another Paul. Far, far from it. But rather it is not impossible for Trump to be selected for some purpose by God. A wise man once told me that God doesn't call the equipped but equips the called.

[Cow Poke]

Interesting stuff:



https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-bless-america

I'd be interested in knowing if anyone here agrees with Sanders on this.

The thread title is a bit misleading. God's divine plan is that Jesus Christ was provided to seek and to save those which were lost, to purchase for them redemption and to live eternally with Him.

In the course of that plan, God uses people and circumstances. That's what Sarah was saying -- here's her exact quote.

"I think God calls all of us to fill different roles at different times and I think that he wanted Donald Trump to become president, and that's why he's there," Sanders told CBN's David Brody and Jennifer Wishon, according to a transcript of the interview provided by CBN.

"I think he has done a tremendous job in supporting a lot of the things that people of faith really care about," Sanders added.

[DesertBerean]

And God said he sets up governments as he pleases, and the guardians he allows in place will answer to him for everything. He even says he destroys governments as well.

EVERYBODY will answer to God, sooner or later.

[mossrose]

And sometimes a nation gets the government it deserves.

[Cow Poke]

While the liberals moan about what an immoral man Trump is, it's interesting to note that the immoral things they cite are things in the past. He seems to be taking a break from being a total reprobate.

Sure, Trump is doing lots of things the liberals don't like, but so would anybody who wasn't championing their agenda.

And this nutty idea that conservatives - particularly Christians - are giving him a pass on his morality, he wasn't running against anybody who was a pillar of virtue.

The choice was - do we vote for somebody who will most certainly be an enabler of the culture of death, or somebody who might actually stand up against it, and for issues Christians hold dear.

[Charles]

While the liberals moan about what an immoral man Trump is, it's interesting to note that the immoral things they cite are things in the past. He seems to be taking a break from being a total reprobate.

Sure, Trump is doing lots of things the liberals don't like, but so would anybody who wasn't championing their agenda.

And this nutty idea that conservatives - particularly Christians - are giving him a pass on his morality, he wasn't running against anybody who was a pillar of virtue.

The choice was - do we vote for somebody who will most certainly be an enabler of the culture of death, or somebody who might actually stand up against it, and for issues Christians hold dear.

One gets the impression that you are giving him a pass. I see no criticism at all, no mention of family separations though you said you were against it. The body slam stuff, the lies.... No wonder some people think you are a supporter.

[DesertBerean]

One gets the impression that you are giving him a pass. I see no criticism at all, no mention of family separations though you said you were against it. The body slam stuff, the lies.... No wonder some people think you are a supporter.

Family separations were happening long before Trump as has been demonstrated in other threads.

[Cow Poke]

One gets the impression that you are giving him a pass.

One? Perhaps the internet s think that.

I see no criticism at all, no mention of family separations though you said you were against it.

There is plenty of that going on - no need for me to pile on. And, since I said I'm against it, that could be a clue!

The body slam stuff, the lies.... No wonder some people think you are a supporter.

No wonder people think you are a Nanny. Back in the car, Chuck!

[xcav8tor]

Trumps presidency was a divine plan

[Sparko]

God often uses bad people to accomplish good things in the bible. Moses and David were murderers. He used Nebuchadnezzar, Pharaoh, and even Herod to accomplish his plans.

Whether or not he put Trump in power, God can use him. Trump has already put a couple of justices on the supreme court that are known to be supportive of values closer to the Christian ideal, such as being against abortion.

[Mountain Man]

God often uses bad people to accomplish good things in the bible. Moses and David were murderers. He used Nebuchadnezzar, Pharaoh, and even Herod to accomplish his plans.

Yes, but we must be clear that God did not cause the evil, he simply used it to accomplish his good will.

Genesis 50:20, "As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today."

[Mountain Man]

Family separations were happening long before Trump as has been demonstrated in other threads.

Not only that, but the separations are only happening as a result of people committing crimes against the United States. That's the part that liberals always leave out. It's no different than if a drug dealer or thief is separated from his family as a consequence of his lawlessness.

[Roy]

Not only that, but the separations are only happening as a result of people committing crimes against the United States.

False.

You've been shown this before:

That's the part that liberals always leave out.

Because it's not true.

You don't care about the truth.