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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI'd hardly call "pay what you want" a "socialist" concept - I'd call it a "libertarian" concept.
But this is a fairly well known problem, and is more generally why we have to have compulsory taxes to do things like helping the poor rather than leaving everything up to private charity.
Because the amount people "want" to pay to private charities turns out to be an order of magnitude or so lower than what is actually needed. The people who say "if only the government didn't tax me and let me give the same money to a charity of my choosing instead" are all very well but it turns out most people aren't like that and wouldn't actually give enough in total if "pay what you want" was the model.
Thus the libertarian model of voluntary charity / voluntary taxation falls apart.Last edited by Sparko; 02-08-2019, 10:11 AM.
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Originally posted by Dimbulb View PostI'd note that the socialist proverb is indeed from each according to his "ability", not from each according to his "as much as you happen to feel like contributing". One of several reasons why the system being described in the OP is libertarian, not socialist.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe problem is that "ability" and "need" are highly subjective evaluations. You might decide that I'm able to give more than I think I'm able to give, and I might decide that you need less than what you think you need. The only way to resolve this dispute is if a third party enforces its own notions of "ability" and "need". This is why a socialist government is almost inevitably a totalitarian one.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSocialism is entirely founded on the principle that somebody can control OPM. And that somebody (or group) always manages to get more than their fare share."What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer
"... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View PostFAIR share....The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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