Poll: Why is Trump trying so hard to keep his tax returns secret?

[oxmixmudd]

Another assertion. Nice, don’t you have a tin foil hat convention to attend?

Are you insane? 'Another assertion'! Assetion about what? Define how me mocking your idiot claim is 'an assertion'.

Jim

[oxmixmudd]

Perhaps try not to put words in my mouth?

Your conservative bona fides here are, shalll we say, somewhat lacking.

Try comprehending the implications of your own words.


Jim

[oxmixmudd]

I would classify Trump as to the right of center. I suspect I'm further to the right then he is.

On immigration he is far right.

On the MSM, he is far, far right, dangerously so, continually inciting his followers to violence against them, as witnessed by the BBC last night.

On the issue of black/hispanic race relations, he is far right, often acting the part of a supremacist (if not actually being one himself)

On climate change, he's far,far right in terms of denial

And on and on we can go.


Jim

[Mountain Man]

On immigration he is far right.

On the MSM, he is far, far right, dangerously so, continually inciting his followers to violence against them, as witnessed by the BBC last night.

On the issue of black/hispanic race relations, he is far right, often acting the part of a supremacist (if not actually being one himself)

On climate change, he's far,far right in terms of denial

And on and on we can go.

Trump would have been considered a conservative Democrat 20-years ago.

[One Bad Pig]

Try comprehending the implications of your own words.


Jim

...which doesn't mean you're necessarily liberal. It just means that I don't have a whole lot of data to go on. I have 1) your claim you voted for Republican presidential nominees who won (until Trump), and, recently, your stance on abortion - which seems rather more centrist than conservative.

[RumTumTugger]

Trump was the first presidential nominee in decades to flatly refuse to release his tax returns. Even Mitt Romney, for whom they were embarrassing due to showing how little tax he'd paid on his income agreed to release them. Even now Trump is trying to block House Democrats from subpoenaing his tax returns.

What do people think he is trying to hide?

Here we have Starlight showing why we shouldn't just accept Poll results without checking the methodology of said poll.

He also shows he is anything but an open-minded Intellectual. A true open-minded intellectual would have made a poll that could have gone a either positive or negative so a true conversation could be had, not set it up to get the negative results the he wants to see.

[Roy]

Right, that's why Dirty Cop Mueller's mandate did not specify a crime to be investigated, ...

The crime specified was "coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump".

You've already been trounced over this falsehood here, where you resorted to the idiotic claim that no crime was specified because the letter doesn't explicitly reference US Code 30121 (a)(2).

I don't expect anything other than pigeon chess from you this time either.

Source: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

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[Bill the Cat]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...mpaign-n970536

After two years and 200 interviews, the Senate Intelligence Committee is approaching the end of its investigation into the 2016 election, having uncovered no direct evidence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to both Democrats and Republicans on the committee.

[lilpixieofterror]

Are you insane? 'Another assertion'! Assetion about what? Define how me mocking your idiot claim is 'an assertion'.

Jim

You’re asserting that if you stuck to the dumb things Trump has said or to things he’s done, that can be verified, instead of diving into conspiracy theories, nobody would listen to you still. Is there something about your reaction that I got wrong? Do explain.

[Mountain Man]

The crime specified was "coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump".

You've already been trounced over this falsehood here, where you resorted to the idiotic claim that no crime was specified because the letter doesn't explicitly reference US Code 30121 (a)(2).

I don't expect anything other than pigeon chess from you this time either.

Source: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i)
any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii)
any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

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That's not a crime, you dumbass. There is literally no law on the books that makes it illegal for a presidential campaign to coordinate with a foreign government. Otherwise, Hillary should be under investigation for coordinating with the Ukrainian government in her takedown of Paul Manafort. Dirty Cop Mueller's mandate with regards to Trump essentially says, "Go see what you can find."

[Mountain Man]

And hold on, let me circle back around...

You've already been trounced over this falsehood here, where you resorted to the idiotic claim that no crime was specified because the letter doesn't explicitly reference US Code 30121 (a)(2).

You say it's idiotic to claim that the letter doesn't specify a crime while conceding that it in fact does not specify a crime? And you say I was trounced?

Going through the old thread you helpfully linked to, it appears I did some trouncing of my own.

None of this changes the fact that according to the LAW there has to be evidence that a crime was committed, and the SPECIFIC crime has to be named in order to appoint a special prosecutor.

"The Attorney General, or in cases in which the Attorney General is recused, the Acting Attorney General, will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted" and "The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated."

Rosenstien's letter does not meet this standard.

You say you're "tired of pigeon-chess". I guess this is your way saying that you've scattered the pieces, pooped on the board, and now you're flying off.

[oxmixmudd]

You’re asserting that if you stuck to the dumb things Trump has said or to things he’s done, that can be verified, instead of diving into conspiracy theories, nobody would listen to you still. Is there something about your reaction that I got wrong? Do explain.

A) I don't 'dive into conspiracy theories', despite you having characterized many of my posts as being that way. The conspiracy nutheads are all about the deep state and the supposed gathering of all forces that 'hate' trump. e.g. the 'Q' etc.

B) I have mostly dealt onlywith Trump's words or explicit actions and in all cases meet massive opposition from at least you and MM. Sometimes CP or others far less militant than you will acknowledge I have a point. For you an MM, any and all criticism of Donald Trump is sufficient reason to mount a full offensive against whatever the topic is. Hence my reaction "right!"

Now for your turn PIX: Show me a time when you or MM have actually reacted in INITIAL* agreement to some nasty comment or bad action of Donald Trump that I have criticized.

Jim

*I think I remember one time when after much caustic back and forth one of you finally admitted whatever it was I was criticizing was a bad thing.

[oxmixmudd]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...mpaign-n970536

After two years and 200 interviews, the Senate Intelligence Committee is approaching the end of its investigation into the 2016 election, having uncovered no direct evidence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to both Democrats and Republicans on the committee.

But with how many close players in the election having been shown to be directly tied to the Russian and conspiring with them in one way or another!

No 'direct' ties my foot! And they never tied Capone to his mob crimes either.

Source: why was capone only prosecuted for tax evasion

The short answer is that Capone was careful; the Treasury Department described him as possessing a "natural Italian secretiveness" [source: IRS]. He managed to create plausible deniability, removing himself enough from the violence and illegality so that no connections could be drawn between him and the crimes he authorized.

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sound familiar?


Jim

[Sparko]

But with how many close players in the election having been shown to be directly tied to the Russian and conspiring with them in one way or another!

No 'direct' ties my foot! And they never tied Capone to his mob crimes either.

Source: why was capone only prosecuted for tax evasion

The short answer is that Capone was careful; the Treasury Department described him as possessing a "natural Italian secretiveness" [source: IRS]. He managed to create plausible deniability, removing himself enough from the violence and illegality so that no connections could be drawn between him and the crimes he authorized.

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sound familiar?


Jim

So basically your position is Trump is guilty and if they can't prove it, then he is still guilty but clever?

[Bill the Cat]

But with how many close players in the election having been shown to be directly tied to the Russian and conspiring with them in one way or another!

No 'direct' ties my foot! And they never tied Capone to his mob crimes either.

Source: why was capone only prosecuted for tax evasion

The short answer is that Capone was careful; the Treasury Department described him as possessing a "natural Italian secretiveness" [source: IRS]. He managed to create plausible deniability, removing himself enough from the violence and illegality so that no connections could be drawn between him and the crimes he authorized.

© Copyright Original Source

sound familiar?


Jim

It's so good that you know more than the people actually doing the investigations. We are so blessed to be in your presence...