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  • Poll: Why is Trump trying so hard to keep his tax returns secret?

    Trump was the first presidential nominee in decades to flatly refuse to release his tax returns. Even Mitt Romney, for whom they were embarrassing due to showing how little tax he'd paid on his income agreed to release them. Even now Trump is trying to block House Democrats from subpoenaing his tax returns.

    What do people think he is trying to hide?
    7
    That he isn't actually very rich
    14.29%
    1
    That he didn't pay much, if any, tax
    0.00%
    0
    Apparent criminal behavior
    28.57%
    2
    All of the above
    57.14%
    4
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Trump was the first presidential nominee in decades to flatly refuse to release his tax returns. Even Mitt Romney, for whom they were embarrassing due to showing how little tax he'd paid on his income agreed to release them. Even now Trump is trying to block House Democrats from subpoenaing his tax returns.

    What do people think he is trying to hide?
    I think it is both he didnt pay much tax and apparent criminal behavior. I dont thing its because hes not rich, though with his eqo, if hes just a millionaire when he claims to be a billionaire, that would play into it I suppose.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Trump was the first presidential nominee in decades to flatly refuse to release his tax returns. Even Mitt Romney, for whom they were embarrassing due to showing how little tax he'd paid on his income agreed to release them. Even now Trump is trying to block House Democrats from subpoenaing his tax returns.

      What do people think he is trying to hide?
      He's a crook, it's as simple as that. Trump insists he would attempt to block any release of his tax returns. There's clearly a lot to hide, there's no other explanation.
      “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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      • #4
        Trump's primary business model in recent decades has been to lease his "Trump" brand name to other people's hotels and business ventures. The brand-name is valuable because it is associated with wealth. If and when it became public that Trump wasn't particularly wealthy (i.e. that he's lost most of the $400m he inherited through incompetence and failed business ventures), that would ruin him because his brand would be worthless for marketing purposes.

        I think there's also good evidence that he's long had business relationships with the mob and with Russian mobsters / oligarchs, and that in recent decades as his incompetence drove his other business ventures into the ground that he began to rely more and more on super-dodgy deals with a variety of unsavory characters. Whether those deals will merely look fishy if they come to light, or actually are fishy through and through (knowingly laundering money etc), I'm not sure.

        I think trying to hide that he paid zero / a low rate of tax would be the least of his concerns, because he can spin that as "I'm a smart businessman" and his supporters would smile and nod.
        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          Trump's primary business model in recent decades has been to lease his "Trump" brand name to other people's hotels and business ventures. The brand-name is valuable because it is associated with wealth. If and when it became public that Trump wasn't particularly wealthy (i.e. that he's lost most of the $400m he inherited through incompetence and failed business ventures), that would ruin him because his brand would be worthless for marketing purposes.

          I think there's also good evidence that he's long had business relationships with the mob and with Russian mobsters / oligarchs, and that in recent decades as his incompetence drove his other business ventures into the ground that he began to rely more and more on super-dodgy deals with a variety of unsavory characters. Whether those deals will merely look fishy if they come to light, or actually are fishy through and through (knowingly laundering money etc), I'm not sure.

          I think trying to hide that he paid zero / a low rate of tax would be the least of his concerns, because he can spin that as "I'm a smart businessman" and his supporters would smile and nod.
          All of that. But the bottom line is, as I said, he's a crook.
          “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dmbulb View Post
            What do people think he is trying to hide?
            Nothing. Anything you want to know about Trump's finances has been released in the comprehensive financial disclosure reports which are public record and contain far more information than you'll find in a tax return.
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            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


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            • #7
              e) He doesn't have to, and his opponents badly want them.
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              • #8
                E.
                That's what
                - She

                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

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                • #9
                  All of the reasons given are part of tRump's over all agenda, but also he is appealing to significant portion of his popular support for the anti-establishment Independent view of an intrusive 'big' government as a protest.
                  Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                  Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                  But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                  go with the flow the river knows . . .

                  Frank

                  I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                  • #10
                    Trump is trolling the democrats. Because he can. And he knows that even if there is nothing in there, they would find a way to find something to complain about.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      Trump is trolling the democrats. Because he can. And he knows that even if there is nothing in there, they would find a way to find something to complain about.
                      We're also talking about his personal tax returns, which aren't going to show any of his business dealings.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        We're also talking about his personal tax returns, which aren't going to show any of his business dealings.
                        They will still find something. no matter how hard they have to twist things. That's what they do with everything he says or does.

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                        • #13
                          Laundering Russkie dosh, obvs!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dirtfloor View Post
                            Laundering Russkie dosh, obvs!
                            Even if that was true, you really think there would be evidence of it in his personal tax returns? And the IRS wouldn't have already taken action against such obvious criminal behavior, or at least reported it to the proper authorities?
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              Even if that was true, you really think there would be evidence of it in his personal tax returns? And the IRS wouldn't have already taken action against such obvious criminal behavior, or at least reported it to the proper authorities?
                              FF doesn't think.
                              That's what
                              - She

                              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                              I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                              - Stephen R. Donaldson

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