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    Kamala Harris’ A.G. Office Tried to Keep Inmates Locked Up for Cheap Labor

    Lawyers for California also argued that allowing certain inmates to be paroled early would deplete a program that allowed prisons to fight wildfires.

    Ordered to reduce the population of California’s overcrowded prisons, lawyers from then-California Attorney General Kamala Harris’s office made the case that some non-violent offenders needed to stay incarcerated or else the prison system would lose a source of cheap labor.

    In 2011, the Supreme Court ruled in Brown v. Plata that California’s prisons were so overcrowded that they violated the Constitution’s prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment. Three years later, in early 2014, the state was ordered to allow non-violent, second time offenders who have served half of their sentence to be eligible for parole.

    By September 2014, plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuit were back in court, accusing California of slow-walking the process, which lawyers for Harris’s office denied.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    That is going to go over big in the primary!
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by seer View Post
      That is going to go over big in the primary!
      Odd that Trump was pushing for early release for non-violent offenders - showcasing that in his SOTUA - and it was the DEMOCRAT who had been pushing for keeping them in!

      According to court filings, lawyers for the state said California met benchmarks, and argued that if certain potential parolees were given a faster track out of prison, it would negatively impact the prison’s labor program including one that allowed certain inmates to work fighting California’s wildfires for about $2 a day.

      “Extending 2-for-1 credits to all minimum custody inmates at this time would severely impact fire camp participation—a dangerous outcome while California is in the middle of a difficult fire season and severe drought,” lawyers for Harris wrote in the filing, noting that the fire camp program required physical fitness in addition to a level of clearance that allowed the felon to be offsite.

      Not only that, they noted, draining the prisons of “minimum custody inmates” would deplete the labor force both internally and in local communities where low-level, non-violent offenders worked for pennies on the dollar collecting trash and tend to city parks. A federal three-judge panel ordered both sides to confer about the plaintiffs’ demands and the state agreed to extend the 2-for-1 credits to all eligible minimum security prisoners.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        Wow, and it was even reported by The Daily Beast?

        I suspect the media is actively trying to thin the herd of Democrat candidates in order to prevent the primary from turning into a circus.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


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        • #5
          She's crooked as they come.

          https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics...t-13562972.php

          I’ve been peppered with calls from the national media about my “relationship” with Kamala Harris, particularly since it became obvious that she was going to run for president. Most of them, I have not returned.
          Yes, we dated. It was more than 20 years ago. Yes, I may have influenced her career by appointing her to two state commissions when I was Assembly speaker.
          And I certainly helped with her first race for district attorney in San Francisco.
          That's what
          - She

          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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          • #6
            So basically, it means California, the most liberal state, owned by Democrats is supporting slavery just like the Democrats did back in the day.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              So basically, it means California, the most liberal state, owned by Democrats is supporting slavery just like the Democrats did back in the day.
              Sure - is there any doubt that the prison population in California is any less disproportionate racially than other prisons in the country? So ... "let's keep them on the plantation" is not such an extreme accusation.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                A bit more about Harris while she was a prosecutor revealed by the Blaze:

                Source: Wait. Was Kamala Harris smoking pot while prosecuting people for smoking pot?



                Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) said that she listened to the music of rap artists Tupac and Snoop Dogg while smoking marijuana.

                Harris, who announced her candidacy for the 2020 presidential race earlier in February, recently became a proponent of legalizing the recreational use of the drug, saying that it is something that gives people "joy."

                Her admission brings up a big question about the timing of her admitted drug use and her time as a prosecutor.

                What did she say, anyway?

                During a Monday interview with WWPR-FM's "The Breakfast Club," Harris said that she listened to Tupac and Snoop Dogg while smoking marijuana

                "I have [smoked pot] and I inhaled, I did inhale," she admitted. "It was a long time ago, but yes. I just broke news."

                She later added that she thinks there's joy to be found in smoking pot.

                "Listen, I think that it gives more people joy," Harris said. "We need more joy."


                So what about the timing?

                So Harris, by her own admission, was smoking pot and listening to Tupac and Snoop Dogg — while she was in college.

                Here's the thing: Harris finished her schooling in 1989. Tupac didn't release an album until 1991.

                As for Snoop Dogg, well, he didn't release his first album until 1993.

                Harris did, however, start working as a deputy district attorney in Alameda County, California, in 1990, where part of her job would have been to enforce existing drug laws.

                Anything else?

                Oh yes.

                During her time as a prosecutor, Harris was as hard-nosed on drug laws as you could get. And when Harris was California Attorney General, she opposed the legalization of marijuana "as late as 2014," according to Reason.

                Reason's Justin Monticello and Katherine Mangu-Ward wrote:

                Harris is a former drug warrior who is now refashioning herself as pro-legalization. That's a positive shift — but not a reason to rewrite the past or ignore the patterns it reveals in her judgment. For years after the cultural tide had turned in support of criminal justice reforms, Harris continued to support lock-'em-up policies that disproportionately hurt minorities.


                Reason's Scott Shackford also wrote that Harris isn't being forthright when it comes to not previously being opposed to marijuana legalization.

                "Harris has a lengthy history as a prosecutor in California of opposing marijuana legalization," Shackford explains. "She opposed Proposition 19, the first failed attempt in California to legalize recreational use of marijuana."

                When Harris was running for attorney general in 2010, her campaign said, "Spending two decades in courtrooms, Harris believes that drug selling harms communities. Harris supports the legal use of medicinal marijuana but does not support anything beyond that."



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                So while she was smoking pot she was energetically prosecuting people for smoking pot.

                I'm always still in trouble again

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                • #9
                  Yup, she's got big issues. Interestingly though the establishment seems to have settled on her as their best chance at stopping Bernie from winning.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Yup, she's got big issues. Interestingly though the establishment seems to have settled on her as their best chance at stopping Bernie from winning.
                    Intersectional politics at their finest...
                    That's what
                    - She

                    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                    - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                    • #11


                      Since this thread has become pertinent.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Kamala Harris’ A.G. Office Tried to Keep Inmates Locked Up for Cheap Labor

                        Lawyers for California also argued that allowing certain inmates to be paroled early would deplete a program that allowed prisons to fight wildfires.

                        Ordered to reduce the population of California’s overcrowded prisons, lawyers from then-California Attorney General Kamala Harris’s office made the case that some non-violent offenders needed to stay incarcerated or else the prison system would lose a source of cheap labor.

                        In 2011, the Supreme Court ruled in Brown v. Plata that California’s prisons were so overcrowded that they violated the Constitution’s prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment. Three years later, in early 2014, the state was ordered to allow non-violent, second time offenders who have served half of their sentence to be eligible for parole.

                        By September 2014, plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuit were back in court, accusing California of slow-walking the process, which lawyers for Harris’s office denied.
                        From the article.
                        Harris, for her part, told BuzzFeed News two months after the arguments were made on her behalf, that she was “shocked” by the argument, telling the publication she was looking into it.

                        Asked about the case this week, Harris’s presidential campaign said she took action.

                        “As she said at the time, Senator Harris was shocked and troubled by the use of this argument. She looked into it and directed the department’s attorneys not to make that argument again,” said spokesman Ian Sams. “Her office, on behalf of the state corrections’ department, then came to the table with the plaintiffs’ representatives to negotiate an agreement, which the court subsequently approved, that led to an expansion of the 2-for-1 credits.”
                        Harris is undoubtedly God's pick for VP.
                        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                          From the article.


                          Harris is undoubtedly God's pick for VP.
                          So you think this signals the end of days then?

                          FWIU it was a judge that ordered the release of her slave labor force so it is hard to believe that she was "shocked" to hear of it, although I'm not the least surprised that she ordered people not to mention it.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Kamala Harris’ A.G. Office Tried to Keep Inmates Locked Up for Cheap Labor

                            Lawyers for California also argued that allowing certain inmates to be paroled early would deplete a program that allowed prisons to fight wildfires.

                            Ordered to reduce the population of California’s overcrowded prisons, lawyers from then-California Attorney General Kamala Harris’s office made the case that some non-violent offenders needed to stay incarcerated or else the prison system would lose a source of cheap labor.

                            In 2011, the Supreme Court ruled in Brown v. Plata that California’s prisons were so overcrowded that they violated the Constitution’s prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment. Three years later, in early 2014, the state was ordered to allow non-violent, second time offenders who have served half of their sentence to be eligible for parole.

                            By September 2014, plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuit were back in court, accusing California of slow-walking the process, which lawyers for Harris’s office denied.
                            KDS didn't have much of an incubation period.
                            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                            • #15
                              I'm not a fan of Harris, but I'm also tired of seeing conservatives work themselves up about every single different democrat. Their common denominator just seems to be their own character of hatred, and thus that they hate everyone and everything associated with Democrats in any way shape or form.

                              Muslim Obama, Transgender Michelle, Shifty Shift, evil Pelosi, Benghazi Rice, crazie Bernie, moron AOC, Indian Warren, Dementia Joe, etc... the conservatives seem always seem to manage to find something, real or not, to get worked up about or hate about that person.

                              And now, they find things to hate about Harris. What a surprise. Not.

                              So before going full-bore "Harris is basically the devil incarnate", please stop and think: Was there any democrat in the country Biden could have picked as his VP that you wouldn't have managed to find a way of demonizing?

                              And to reply in advance to the inevitable "but Dems say some bad stuff about Trump, so that's just as bad right?" No. That's one person. And by objective metrics Trump is doing unusually badly. Number of dead Americans: Unusually high. Economic slump in last quarter: Unusually high. Unemployment rates: Unusually high. Debt and deficit: Unusually high. Amount of time spent golfing: Unusually high. Amount of tweeting: Unusually high. Amount of involvement of his family and businesses in government: Unusually high. Amount of word-salads when he talks: Unusually high. Amount of falsehoods spoken: Unusually high. National favorability rating: Unusually low. International favorability rating: Unusually low.

                              There are a wide range of reasons a totally normal and totally reasonable person might legitimately say Trump is worse than other Republican presidents and Republican politicians. On all sorts of objective metrics he's worse. So Dems that take this position aren't being unreasonable, nor irrational, nor hate-filled, nor have TDS. He, compared to other Republicans, is actually doing badly.

                              Whereas what I am seeing from right-wingers here is like TDS applied to all dems. Every single dem is The Worst, and apparently is worse than every other Dem. The common denominator in that seems to be an unfortunate character flaw in the right-wingers themselves that causes such hatred toward such a vast number of people. Kamala seems to be the latest recipient. She's The Worst Ever, just like every other Dem before her and after he. It gets to the point where it reads like absurdist fiction and if you guys were characters in a book I'd criticize the writer for writing unbelievable 2-dimensional characters who were self-parodies that didn't have any nuance.
                              Last edited by Starlight; 08-12-2020, 07:11 AM.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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