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Mueller Report Next Week?
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Originally posted by seer View PostFirst Jim, I think Grand Jury testimony has to be kept secret, second, what crimes? If he fudged on his taxes 20 years ago? Remember what this was all about - collusion. As far as Barr, it is an open question whether a sitting president can be indicted, there are scholars on both sides - but he still can be impeached."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYes, that, and the other immutable truth of living in the US -- you are innocent until proven guilty, regardless of the drumbeat of accusation. Have you forgotten that one?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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The Spin and Misdirection Begins!
Sen. Elizabeth Warren: Voters don't care about Mueller report
Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Monday that voters care about the issues that affect their everyday lives, not special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the 2016 presidential election.
The 2020 Democratic presidential candidate told CBS late-night host Stephen Colbert that while the findings of the investigation are “important,” Democrats should be more concerned with addressing the concerns of Americans.
“I spent the last couple of days in New Hampshire,” Ms. Warren said. “I did a bunch of big public events. I took about 30 questions, just unfiltered from anybody, and then did long lines afterward where I talked to people — probably altogether over the weekend got maybe 100 questions. Do you know how many were about the Mueller report? Zero.
“Because what people were asking about were the things that touch their lives every day,” she said.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...utm_medium=RSS
Pay no attention to that report behind the curtain!
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYou're frothing Jim. Love your enemy.
I think Bill you could take your own words and learn to love the Clintons and the Obamas and everyone else you see as a public threat and excuse them. I mean you know it would only be right.A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by seer View PostJim, really you need to get a grip. If he is guilty of a crime he could and will be charged after he is out of office. That is ONLY a matter of timing, not of getting away with it. I understand you are disappointed that no collusion was found.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYou're frothing Jim. Love your enemy.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostNo he isn't. If he breaks the law, he gets impeached after a trial by the Legislative branch. If impeached, he then gets tried by whatever court gets the case in their jurisdiction.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostHow will we know if he was fiund to have broken the law if the actual report is held in secret?
JimThat's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYes, that, and the other immutable truth of living in the US -- you are innocent until proven guilty, regardless of the drumbeat of accusation. Have you forgotten that one?
Transparency with the report, and the capacity to indict a sitting president prevent him from being above the law during the presidency.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostHow will we know if he was fiund to have broken the law if the actual report is held in secret?
Jim
Do you think that Mueller would not have brought charges if Trump had broken the law? He spent two years trying to find something. Why would he not use it if he had it?
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostBecause if Barr releases the parts he legally is forbidden from releasing, HE will go to jail. But that brings up an interesting side note that you haven't addressed. Do you think Muller and Barr are both hiding information that Trump is secretly guilty? And what's your evidence to prove that?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe Spin and Misdirection Begins!
Sen. Elizabeth Warren: Voters don't care about Mueller report
Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Monday that voters care about the issues that affect their everyday lives, not special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the 2016 presidential election.
The 2020 Democratic presidential candidate told CBS late-night host Stephen Colbert that while the findings of the investigation are “important,” Democrats should be more concerned with addressing the concerns of Americans.
“I spent the last couple of days in New Hampshire,” Ms. Warren said. “I did a bunch of big public events. I took about 30 questions, just unfiltered from anybody, and then did long lines afterward where I talked to people — probably altogether over the weekend got maybe 100 questions. Do you know how many were about the Mueller report? Zero.
“Because what people were asking about were the things that touch their lives every day,” she said.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...utm_medium=RSS
Pay no attention to that report behind the curtain!
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostHow will we know if he was fiund to have broken the law if the actual report is held in secret?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnother thing we're starting to hear is complaints about how Republicans, Trump supporters etc. are poor winners. How they're being vindictive in their vindication. Considering that there was an attempt to overturn an election based on a concocted bogus story relentlessly pushed by a hostile press I think they have a right to be angry.
Although then it would make sense to see the full report because there were charges made, where now he is not guilty so there are no charges and no evidence so the dirt if there is any should not be released.
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