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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Zebiri View Post
    None of the koranic verses I quoted are out of context, siam. U have not shown them to be, apart from making some bald claims.

    Indeed the Koran is practically full of ayats and passages that vilify Christians and Jews in particular as I have already shown specifically.

    How you can try to hoodwink naive and uninformed non-Muslims that islam and it's "holy book" teaches peace and tolerance, by just selectively citing verses, is nothing short of astounding, siam.

    None of the koranic verses U quoted are IN context, Dan. U have not shown them to be, apart from making some bald claims.

    Indeed the Koran is practically full of ayats and passages that call for tolerance as I show in the links.

    How you can try to hoodwink naive and uninformed non-Muslims that islam and it's "holy book" teaches hate and intolerance, by just selectively citing verses, is nothing short of astounding, Dan

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    https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/6-qu...edom-religion/

    https://www.islamicity.org/8667/tole...sion-in-islam/

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    Nice try, siam the dawagandist (islamic propogandist/missionary).

    Those links prove absolutely nothing. Except that the koran is full of meaningless contradictions, e.g.hate vs. "peaceful" ayats/verses, tolerant vs. Intolerant ones etc.

    Yes, there's plenty of vilification against Christians and Jews in your koran, one of which is the cursing ritual mohamed tried to get the Christian delegation from Najran to do with him, that was nothing more than hateful tyranny so typical of him, and the muslims who follow him blindly, today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Zebiri View Post
    Nice try, siam the dawagandist (islamic propogandist/missionary).

    Those links prove absolutely nothing. Except that the koran is full of meaningless contradictions, e.g.hate vs. "peaceful" ayats/verses, tolerant vs. Intolerant ones etc.

    Yes, there's plenty of vilification against Christians and Jews in your koran, one of which is the cursing ritual mohamed tried to get the Christian delegation from Najran to do with him, that was nothing more than hateful tyranny so typical of him, and the muslims who follow him blindly, today.
    I disagree with both your points...I do not see contradictions in the Quran and I see long periods of religious/legal pluralism in Islamic history....but I can concede that human interpretation...or rather misinterpretations....have often led to contradictions, oppression, injustice also. Not all Muslims live upto the ethico-moral principles of the Quran..neither in the past nor in the present.

    In Islam, humanity is inherently good as we do not have a concept of original sin, depravity...etc....therefore, human society acts on evil (hate, dehumanization, genocide...etc) when power (state and/or legal) or a power-vacuum, enables or allows it. Hate (or evil) can be contained when power (state/legal) advocates for justice tempered with mercy. Such justice must be built on principles of the brotherhood of all humanity and that all humanity is of equivalent value (human dignity).

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