Mishandling Security.

[Catholicity]

How is this not an issue?
https://www.wral.com/trump-ordered-o...W0g7IdYGZJAqSM

[Sparko]

sorry I can't see the article because it doesn't like my ad blocker.

[rogue06]

Source: Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a Security Clearance

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Of course presidents are allowed to choose their advisors and IIRC some of them raised questions of a like nature. Moreover, if they hadn't been elected the last two Democrat presidents probably couldn't have gotten within a six block radius of a security clearance.

Okay, that was hyperbole. I'm sure they could have gotten within a block.


ETA: Here's one example

Source: Lawmakers demand answers on Rhodes' Security clearance

White House Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes has become the subject of a congressional probe into whether FBI officials declined to grant him an interim security clearance for use during President Obama's transition.

In a letter sent to FBI Director James Comey in mid-December, Republican Congressmen Trent Franks, Ariz., and Jim Bridenstine, Okla., pressed the agency for details about Obama's top national security aide and his clearance investigation. The letter, first reported by the Washington Free Beacon, questions about whether Rhodes' access to classified information is inappropriate considering FBI officials may have been perturbed by his past.

"Recent reports indicate the FBI denied, or was going to deny, Ben Rhodes an interim security clearance during President Obama's transition. This previously unknown fact is extremely troubling and calls into question the integrity of the FBI's protocols and the wisdom of Mr. Rhodes' continued government employment," the lawmakers wrote.


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[Sparko]

Thanks. I also found the original story here: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/u...?module=inline

So where are these internal memos mentioned in the story? And who are the four people mentioned? This sounds like another NYT "anonymous sources said" story.

But even if it did happen as stated, the President can legally give a top secret security clearance to whomever he wants. He is the Commander in Chief.

[NorrinRadd]

It was not illegal. The main problem would be whether or not Trump et al lied about it.

I don't really trust Kushner, but at this point, I also don't trust the FBI and other security agencies when it comes to Trump and his family.

[firstfloor]

How is this not an issue?
https://www.wral.com/trump-ordered-o...W0g7IdYGZJAqSM

It IS a very serious problem and for reasons that should be obvious even to Republicans.

[Bill the Cat]

It IS a very serious problem and for reasons that should be obvious even to Republicans.

No it isn't. As the top classifying official in the country, Trump legally can order a security clearance investigation for ANYONE. Ultimately, it's his legal responsibility and ability to accept the risk if any abnormalities are discovered.

[Cow Poke]

It was not illegal. The main problem would be whether or not Trump et al lied about it.

I don't really trust Kushner, but at this point, I also don't trust the FBI and other security agencies when it comes to Trump and his family.

You know, it's sad that we're kinda in a situation where we have to decide who's lying the LEAST, not "who's telling the truth".

[Bill the Cat]

You know, it's sad that we're kinda in a situation where we have to decide who's lying the LEAST, not "who's telling the truth".

I think that's why Trump had to excuse Kim on the Otto Warmbier thing. If he wants the benefit of the doubt from others, he had to give it to Kim.

[firstfloor]

No it isn't. As the top classifying official in the country, Trump legally can order a security clearance investigation for ANYONE. Ultimately, it's his legal responsibility and ability to accept the risk if any abnormalities are discovered.

So if Obama has given a clearance to his son-in-law after security experts and recommend refusal, you would have given him a thumbs up. You are nuts.

[Bill the Cat]

So if Obama has given a clearance to his son-in-law after security experts and recommend refusal, you would have given him a thumbs up. You are nuts.

It's how the law is written, stupid. But again, you are talking out of complete ignorance. The only way to be blocked from a security clearance is if the adjudicator says to block you. That didn't happen here. Some unrelated suits griped their "concerns", but the actual investigators found no offense suitable for denying him a clearance.

[firstfloor]

It's how the law is written, stupid. But again, you are talking out of complete ignorance. The only way to be blocked from a security clearance is if the adjudicator says to block you. That didn't happen here. Some unrelated suits griped their "concerns", but the actual investigators found no offense suitable for denying him a clearance.

[Bill the Cat]

Kushner lied on his application for clearance

No he didn't. The "concerns" were neve

and dad-in-law lied about his role in getting him cleared.

It's none of your business who gets a clearance and who doesn't. it's the President's prerogative under Article II to give a clearance to anyone he damned well pleases.

That's legal. That you got your panties in a wad about it is of no concern to me.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...=.feb7789e91c2

[firstfloor]

It is a wonder that Kushner is not behind bars already.

[Bill the Cat]

It is a wonder that Kushner is not behind bars already.

And since the details of his SF86 and interviews have not been released, you are talking out of your rear again.