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    There are stupid questions.

    I think my favorite at work was when somebody asked me if Trump would deport him if he mailed a package to his mom in Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    There are stupid questions.

    I think my favorite at work was when somebody asked me if Trump would deport him if he mailed a package to his mom in Mexico.
    A guy I work with asked a couple weeks ago why doesn't Trump fire Nancy Pelosi

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    There are stupid questions.

    I think my favorite at work was when somebody asked me if Trump would deport him if he mailed a package to his mom in Mexico.
    My favorite came from Mrs CP.

    She had been out of town for the weekend for a Womens's Retreat, and while she was gone, my daughter told me that she just found out that a friend of ours had died, and the funeral was that Saturday.
    Jenny and I attend the funeral, and got home the same time my wife got home from the Retreat.

    She saw us get out of the car, and asked "why are you guys so dressed up?"

    I told her "we went to a funeral".

    Mrs CP asked, "Oh, somebody died?"


    My daughter smiled and said, "you handle this one, Dad".
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

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    Maybe she wanted to know who had died? Poor phrasing though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    My favorite came from Mrs CP.

    She had been out of town for the weekend for a Womens's Retreat, and while she was gone, my daughter told me that she just found out that a friend of ours had died, and the funeral was that Saturday.
    Jenny and I attend the funeral, and got home the same time my wife got home from the Retreat.

    She saw us get out of the car, and asked "why are you guys so dressed up?"

    I told her "we went to a funeral".

    Mrs CP asked, "Oh, somebody died?"


    My daughter smiled and said, "you handle this one, Dad".
    What? Do most people wait until someone is dead before doing their funeral?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    Maybe she wanted to know who had died? Poor phrasing though!
    She has a gift for asking the obvious.
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    What is your working definition of "ordain"? God allows things to happen but does not endorse them.

    The other day, a friend of mine posted a quotation from a Calvinist theologian who argued that God invented and introduced sin as part of his plan because God controls everything that happens. This would be the logical conclusion of such a determinist viewpoint, but is quite obviously wrong.
    My understanding of ordain means to make a plan that something would happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    Last time, I think the "they" was Sye ten Bruggencate IIRC, who doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
    Sye Ten Bruggencate would not use that argument. He believes that God ordains whatsoever comes to pass. People opposed to his view would use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    This appears to be the internet version of "they say...."
    I know some people who have used that argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    My understanding of ordain means to make a plan that something would happen.
    Ordain generally means to set apart, or to order or decree something.
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

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