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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostBut why isn't the particle already in a state of collapse since observer one already made in collapse? How can it not be in that state for observer two?
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAll science is a work in progress.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhat about "settled science"?Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe seem to be saying that even though the first observer collapsed the particle the 2nd observer somehow knew it wasn't collapsed. I don't understand how they could even know.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI think that is the whole point of the thought experiment. To show that it should be but wasn't. But how would the 2nd observer know whether is was or wasn't until he interacted with it? The seem to be saying that even though the first observer collapsed the particle the 2nd observer somehow knew it wasn't collapsed. I don't understand how they could even know.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou'd have to ask the people who are fond using that phrase.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThat is why I am asking you. Scientists are not fond of odd sayings like 'settled science.' They would out of jobs.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostUnless they are climatologists.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThey are not claiming to 'know.' These are interpretations base don the human perspective of Quantum Mechanics consistent with previous observations.
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Yup - the article claims "proven." Problem arises though, in that it is a reporters words ... though I may have missed it, there doesn't seem to be a direct quote from the researchers, which would be necessary to show that the claim was actually made by a scientist.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostYup - the article claims "proven." Problem arises though, in that it is a reporters words ... though I may have missed it, there doesn't seem to be a direct quote from the researchers, which would be necessary to show that the claim was actually made by a scientist.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1902.05080.pdf
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThey are claiming to know. They are claiming the thought experiment has been confirmed with testing. Read the article.Last edited by shunyadragon; 03-23-2019, 08:55 AM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Postthe experiment has been confirmed only determines that the results, the observations, meet the criteria of predictability of the hypothesis. This would remain subject to further research and experiments. This does not meet the criteria of claiming to 'know,' because the scientist do not 'know' the cause among many other unanswered questions concerning Quantum Mechanics behavior at the Quanta level of our physical existence.
You are spewing gibberish again.
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