No Collusion!

[TheWall]

I never really cared about conspiracy theories.

[rogue06]

Source: REWIND: WATCH THE MEDIA SPEND TWO YEARS HYPING A NOW-DEBUNKED STORY

Bombshells! Treason! Impeachment! Prison!To see montage click the link provided below*]


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Meanwhile, the Hollyweird celebutards are predictably rejecting the findings and are becoming increasingly unhinged. This from Rob "Meathead" Reiner:

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[Zymologist]

What do the Russians have on Mueller?

[seer]

What do the Russians have on Mueller?

That is the question! I'm sure the media will pick up on that and save our Republic...

[Cow Poke]

What do the Russians have on Mueller?

Somebody needs to investigate that!

[Catholicity]

I think given that the Russians DID offer to fix the election and the number of people in the campaign that were criminals the investigation wasn't a witch hunt, but it needed to happen. An investigation like this will hopefully make the smart people wise up to "yes" a foreign idiot can try and hack the election in the US.
2) If you want to elect someone who isn't Donald Trump Vote in 2020
3) Don't hire Cohen and Manafort. Ever

[Cow Poke]

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[Mountain Man]

...the number of people in the campaign that were criminals...

A grand total of 5 or 6 people directly connected to the campaign were indicted and/or plead guilty, one of them (Paul Manafort) for crimes entirely unrelated to and committed years before Trump even announced his candidacy, and the rest were for nothing-burger process crimes. It's actually a surprisingly small number of people, and a surprisingly innocuous list of crimes when you consider just how deeply Mueller dug to find dirt on Trump and his staff.

[Cow Poke]

A grand total of 5 or 6 people directly connected to the campaign were indicted and/or plead guilty, one of them (Paul Manafort) for crimes entirely unrelated to and committed years before Trump even announced his candidacy, and the rest were for nothing-burger process crimes. It's actually a surprisingly small number of people, and a surprisingly innocuous list of crimes when you consider just how deeply Mueller dug to find dirt on Trump and his staff.

Would any of them have been charged/convicted were it not for the "we gotta get Trump no matter what"?

[Mountain Man]

Would any of them have been charged/convicted were it not for the "we gotta get Trump no matter what"?

In the case of the process crimes, absolutely not. Those were crimes that were committed only because the individuals were drug in for questioning and caught in a perjury trap. In Manafort's case, it's hard to say if his crimes would have caught up with him eventually or not.

[Cow Poke]

In the case of the process crimes, absolutely not. Those were crimes that were committed only because the individuals were drug in for questioning and caught in a perjury trap. In Manafort's case, it's hard to say if his crimes would have caught up with him eventually or not.

Agreed. So it's kinda like the "fruit of the poison tree" situation, in my opinion. If I come into your house on a phony warrant, and discover a stash of marihootchie on your dresser, any charges against you* would be thrown out in court due to the illegal nature of my search.


*assuming the DA even allowed charges to be pressed - depends on when and how the nature of the phony warrant is exposed.

[Catholicity]

Would any of them have been charged/convicted were it not for the "we gotta get Trump no matter what"?

Do you really believe that their behavior didn't warrant investigation? Crime has a way of catching up to you. And Manafort was laundering for years. Of all people CP you should know that no one is above the law. The campaign investigation was warranted no matter how you put it.

[Cow Poke]

Do you really believe that their behavior didn't warrant investigation?

Never said that - I just prefer that we do things legally and properly.

Crime has a way of catching up to you.

Well, so far it hasn't, though not for lack of trying (consider my home school arrest)

And Manafort was laundering for years. Of all people CP you should know that no one is above the law.

How bout dialing down the drama just a tad --- I'm fully aware no one is above the law, but I prefer to see the law properly applied within the confines of the Constitution.

The campaign investigation was warranted no matter how you put it.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

[Mountain Man]

Agreed. So it's kinda like the "fruit of the poison tree" situation, in my opinion. If I come into your house on a phony warrant, and discover a stash of marihootchie on your dresser, any charges against you* would be thrown out in court due to the illegal nature of my search.

That's a frequent plot point in Law & Order.

(Although it's usually a matter of the detectives inadvertently violating someone's rights rather than doing something deliberately shady because the cops are the good guys on the show.)

[Cow Poke]

That's a frequent plot point in Law & Order.

(Although it's usually a matter of the detectives inadvertently violating someone's rights rather than doing something deliberately shady because the cops are the good guys on the show.)

Yeah, it's a common theme in law enforcement --- and because there are some unscrupulous investigators and police officers, the system sometimes too zealously throws out good arrests or prosecutions where honest mistakes were made that should not impact the outcome.

The worst, in my experience, was one in which we had arrested a man for the rape and murder of a 9 year old girl -- the guy actually took us to the body in wooded field. His conviction was thrown out, however, because some !$!^!&! Sheriff's Deputy offered the criminal a glass of wine during the interview "to calm him down" --- that deputy should be tied to a wagon wheel and horsewhipped - but the murderer/rapist shouldn't have been set free because of this idiot.