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Originally posted by JimL View PostIntent dummy, intent.
Trump is lucky that his underlings refused to carry out his orders, but he intended for them to, and that is a criminal offense.
You should already know by this time why there was no indictment by Mueller,
but I know that you Trumpsters
will never admit to anything. It's ok, live in your fantasy world of the deep state like the con man Trump instructed you.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostDo you know what they call attempted obstruction CP? They call it obstruction.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIntent dummy, intent. Trump is lucky that his underlings refused to carry out his orders, but he intended for them to, and that is a criminal offense. You should already know by this time why there was no indictment by Mueller, but I know that you Trumpsters will never admit to anything. It's ok, live in your fantasy world of the deep state like the con man Trump instructed you."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostAnd again Jimmy. Most of us are just lucky that we don’t have someone with the full resources of the federal government, millions of dollars, and years to dig into every aspect of our lives.
(well, as long as they don't go past 1978, and they never depose Rogue. )The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIntent dummy, intent. Trump is lucky that his underlings refused to carry out his orders, but he intended for them to, and that is a criminal offense. You should already know by this time why there was no indictment by Mueller, but I know that you Trumpsters will never admit to anything. It's ok, live in your fantasy world of the deep state like the con man Trump instructed you.
1. Trump never followed up, and he could have.
2. Jim did Trump have the legal right to fire Mueller? Yes or no?
3. And you only know this because Trump allowed McGahn to testify, he was within his legal right to assert executive privilege.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJim, that's really really stupid. If my INTENT is to kill you, but I never take any action, there is no crime. I'm sure you INTEND to use proper grammar, but that doesn't get you an A on your homework.
No, it's not.
At this point, it's obvious that you realize how stupid your arguments are, so you're just basking in your profound ignorance.Last edited by JimL; 04-20-2019, 06:26 PM.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJim, that's really really stupid. If my INTENT is to kill you, but I never take any action, there is no crime. I
The implication of the report is that Trump may have escaped a finding that he obstructed justice only because his top aides refused to carry out his most dramatic orders. Indeed, Mueller’s team describes several of Trump's actions as satisfying all the legal elements of obstruction.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...leased-1280960“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYou are incorrect.
The standard common law test of criminal liability is expressed in the Latin phrase actus reus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea, i.e. "the act is not culpable unless the mind is guilty". In jurisdictions with due process, there must be both actus reus ("guilty act") and mens rea for a defendant to be guilty of a crime.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seer View PostAgain Jim:
1. Trump never followed up, and he could have.
2. Jim did Trump have the legal right to fire Mueller? Yes or no?
3. And you only know this because Trump allowed McGahn to testify, he was within his legal right to assert executive privilege.
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
You kinda skipped the part where, first, there has to actually be a crime, and, lo and behold, there's not even an indictment.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...leased-1280960“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostActually you “kinda skipped the part” where, according to the Report, Trump may have escaped a finding that he committed the crime of obstructing justice only because his top aides refused to carry out his explicit illegal orders.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...leased-1280960The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostActually you “kinda skipped the part” where, according to the Report, Trump may have escaped a finding that he committed the crime of obstructing justice only because his top aides refused to carry out his explicit illegal orders.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...leased-1280960
The way Mueller's report reads, it's like a cop pulling you over and saying, "You know, if you had run that red light then you would have broken the law." You say, "But I didn't run the red light." And he says, "Yes, but IF you had..."
Imagine a prosecutor trying to take that story to a judge.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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