Announcement

Collapse

Civics 101 Guidelines

Want to argue about politics? Healthcare reform? Taxes? Governments? You've come to the right place!

Try to keep it civil though. The rules still apply here.
See more
See less

No Collusion!

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
    And you can bet your bottom dollar that Trumps toadies, Atty Gen. Barr, S. Mnuchin etc etc will do all they think they can get away with to keep that report from going public. Mnuchin is already coming very close to breaking the law (5 year prison sentence) by trying to obstruct Congress from procuring Trumps tax filings from the IRS which he promised to make public during his campaign. And atty Gen Barr, who told Congress at his confirmation hearings that he would be as transparent as possible is doing just the opposite in his attempt to hide the Mueller report from the public.
    Does little jimmyL know you have his bong?

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

    Comment


    • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      In order to keep this fantasy up you continue to purposefully omit the fact that Rod Rosenstein worked alongside of Barr to write the summary.
      We don’t know that “Rosenstein worked alongside of Barr to write the summary”. All we know is that he defended Barr’s initial handling of Mueller’s report on Russian election interference.

      If this was "spin" you can bet he wouldn't be silent and would have immediately disassociated himself from it.
      Several of Mueller’s associates haven’t remained “silent”. And it’s reasonable to regard the Barr Summary as “spin” given his increasingly obvious status as a Trump stooge.

      Further, Mueller has already shown that when someone misrepresents or fabricates something about his work he will publicly step up and call them out on it (like he did when Buzzfeed falsely claimed that Trump directed his former lawyer Michael Cohen to lie to Congress). He would not be silent if Barr was not portraying things accurately.
      You wouldn’t have to bother with all this embarrassingly desperate speculation if we actually has access to the Mueller Report.

      Learn to deal with it or get ready for yet another major disappointment where you're forced to grasp at even fewer straws in a vain attempt to keep this wild conspiracy theory afloat.
      One cannot be disappointed when there has been nothing made available in any detail.

      Mueller said there was no evidence for collusion. Deal with it. The fat lady has already sang, left the stage and is eating dinner at a restaurant across town.

      Moreover, an investigative prosecutor like Mueller cannot "exonerate" anyone all he can do is say whether or not there is sufficient evidence to proceed. And he said there wasn't.
      The Summary doesn’t explain how Mueller came to his results and offers scant details on his probe into whether the president committed obstruction of justice. The public (or at least Congress to enable it to fulfill its duty of Executive Oversight) is entitled to the full Report. As with Trump’s Tax Returns one can only wonder what is Trump hiding…and why his base is enabling him.

      Deal with it. The fat lady is now finishing desert.
      The “fat lady” has yet to receive her entrée, she’s still on her pre-dinner ‘nibbles’.
      “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

      Comment


      • The desperation by you lefties is hilarious!!
        That's what
        - She

        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
        - Stephen R. Donaldson

        Comment


        • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
          The “fat lady” has yet to receive her entrée, she’s still on her pre-dinner ‘nibbles’.
          ...which means she's finished singing and left the stage, regardless of where she is in the meal.
          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

          Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
          sigpic
          I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

          Comment


          • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
            The desperation by you lefties is hilarious!!
            The naivete, and or idiocy, of you Trump supporters here is sad.

            Comment


            • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              We don’t know that “Rosenstein worked alongside of Barr to write the summary”. All we know is that he defended Barr’s initial handling of Mueller’s report on Russian election interference.
              Source: Rod Rosenstein defends Attorney General Barr’s handling of Mueller report as Democrats ramp up pressure: WSJ


              Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is defending Attorney General William Barr’s handling of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on Russian election interference.

              “He’s being as forthcoming as he can,” Rosenstein said told The Wall Street Journal on Thursday in a rare interview. “And so this notion that he’s trying to mislead people, I think is just completely bizarre.”

              Barr, who was confirmed by the Senate in February, has come under heavy criticism from Democrats dissatisfied with how he has handled the nearly 400-page report on Mueller’s 22-month probe of Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election and possible collusion with President Donald Trump’s campaign.

              They’re particularly irked with Barr’s four-page summary of the principal conclusions from that report, which was sent to Judiciary Committee leaders less than two days after Mueller handed over the lengthy final document to the attorney general. Barr wrote that the special counsel did not establish Trump-Russia collusion, and he and Rosenstein determined from the report that Mueller’s evidence was not sufficient to find that Trump had obstructed justice.



              Source

              © Copyright Original Source



              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              Several of Mueller’s associates haven’t remained “silent”. And it’s reasonable to regard the Barr Summary as “spin” given his increasingly obvious status as a Trump stooge.
              What we know is that an anonymous source claimed that anonymous sources claimed that a few of Mueller's associates haven't remained silent.
              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              You wouldn’t have to bother with all this embarrassingly desperate speculation if we actually has access to the Mueller Report.
              Do you have a Plan B wacko conspiracy theory in the wings when this crashes and burns on you as well?

              Rosenstein: "And so this notion that [Barr is] trying to mislead people, I think is just completely bizarre."
              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              One cannot be disappointed when there has been nothing made available in any detail.

              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              The Summary doesn’t explain how Mueller came to his results
              And in your fevered imagination the full report will somehow, in someway completely overturn Mueller's conclusions?

              Get ready for more of the disappoint.

              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              and offers scant details on his probe into whether the president committed obstruction of justice. The public (or at least Congress to enable it to fulfill its duty of Executive Oversight) is entitled to the full Report.
              smiley stoned.gif
              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              As with Trump’s Tax Returns one can only wonder what is Trump hiding…and why his base is enabling him.
              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              The “fat lady” has yet to receive her entrée, she’s still on her pre-dinner ‘nibbles’.
              IOW, you agree that she's done singing, left the building and eating at a restaurant across town

              Do you know what the expression "own goal" means


              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

              Comment


              • I bet Barr is short for Barristovovich.

                Comment


                • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  [cite=Rod Rosenstein defends Attorney General Barr’s handling of Mueller report as Democrats ramp up pressure.

                  Etc. etc. etc. <snipped>[/QUOTE]
                  Nothing about your claim that “Rosenstein worked alongside of Barr to write the summary”. All we know is that he defended Barr’s initial handling of Mueller’s report on Russian election interference.

                  What we know is that an anonymous source claimed that anonymous sources claimed that a few of Mueller's associates haven't remained silent.
                  No. What we know is that several reputable sources including the NY Times and the Washington Post, are claiming that several of Mueller’s associates haven’t remained “silent”. They haven’t as yet revealed their sources, but neither did The Washington Post reveal its sources re Watergate…they were correct though and Nixon resigned.

                  Do you have a Plan B wacko conspiracy theory in the wings when this crashes and burns on you as well?
                  Just waiting for the release of the entire Mueller Report…at least to Congress if not the public.

                  And in your fevered imagination the full report will somehow, in someway completely overturn Mueller's conclusions?
                  The full Report will explain how Mueller came to his results. We need to know; not everyone trusts the version of liar Trump or his stooge Barr.

                  IOW, you agree that she's done singing, left the building and eating at a restaurant across town
                  Again, the “fat lady” has yet to receive her entrée, she’s still on her pre-dinner ‘nibbles’ waiting patiently for her meal to arrive.
                  Last edited by Tassman; 04-16-2019, 01:56 AM.
                  “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

                  Comment


                  • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                    Nothing about your claim that “Rosenstein worked alongside of Barr to write the summary”. All we know is that he defended Barr’s initial handling of Mueller’s report on Russian election interference.
                    Except for the part that was bolded and underlined for you which said

                    he and Rosenstein determined from the report that Mueller’s evidence was not sufficient to find that Trump had obstructed justice


                    Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                    No. What we know is that several reputable sources including the NY Times and the Washington Post, are claiming that several of Mueller’s associates haven’t remained “silent”. They haven’t as yet revealed their sources, but neither did The Washington Post reveal its sources re Watergate…they were correct though and Nixon resigned.
                    They quoted an anonymous source who was citing anonymous sources. This was pointed out to you in another thread when you even cited an article from the New York Times which actually confirmed this. Persisting in this error won't change that fact even if you're clicking your heels together as you type.

                    Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                    Just waiting for the release of the entire Mueller Report…at least to Congress if not the public.
                    So no plan B. You'll just wing it while you cobble one up on the fly.

                    Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                    The full Report will explain how Mueller came to his results. We need to know; not everyone trusts the version of liar Trump or his stooge Barr.
                    Rosenstein: "And so this notion that [Barr is] trying to mislead people, I think is just completely bizarre."

                    Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                    Again, the “fat lady” has yet to receive her entrée, she’s still on her pre-dinner ‘nibbles’ waiting patiently for her meal to arrive.
                    Which again means that she's done singing. IOW, it's over. Deal with it.

                    Another own goal on your part.


                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

                    Comment


                    • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Except for the part that was bolded and underlined for you which said

                      he and Rosenstein determined from the report that Mueller’s evidence was not sufficient to find that Trump had obstructed justice



                      They quoted an anonymous source who was citing anonymous sources. This was pointed out to you in another thread when you even cited an article from the New York Times which actually confirmed this. Persisting in this error won't change that fact even if you're clicking your heels together as you type.


                      So no plan B. You'll just wing it while you cobble one up on the fly.


                      Rosenstein: "And so this notion that [Barr is] trying to mislead people, I think is just completely bizarre."


                      Which again means that she's done singing. IOW, it's over. Deal with it.

                      Another own goal on your part.

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]36395[/ATTACH]
                      Trump has like 17 criminal cases ongoing, his sister, a circuit court Judge just resigned from the bench due to an alledged tax fraud scam with her brother the Don. He's a bleeping fraud and a crook so he's going down one way or the other whether impeached or not. Oh, btw, though you conservative twebbers are a little slow on the uptake, he's also a treasonous dirt bag whether he's indicted for it or not.

                      Comment


                      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        Trump has like 17 criminal cases ongoing, his sister, a circuit court Judge just resigned from the bench due to an alledged tax fraud scam with her brother the Don. He's a bleeping fraud and a crook so he's going down one way or the other whether impeached or not. Oh, btw, though you conservative twebbers are a little slow on the uptake, he's also a treasonous dirt bag whether he's indicted for it or not.
                        Then let him be removed by due process, not by a bunch of lunatic lefties pitching hissies and repeating rumors.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

                        Comment


                        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          Then let him be removed by due process, not by a bunch of lunatic lefties pitching hissies and repeating rumors.
                          Due process is what the Trump administration is doing their level best to hinder, or obstruct. Do you really believe that Trump is still under audit after 3 years and just can't wait to release his taxes like he promised you he would do? Do you really think they are trying to be cooperative and transparent with regards to the Meuller investigation and all the alledged criminal activity by Trump and his family? I would like to think you were more objective in you're assessment, but it's clearly obvious that you are no more objective than MM, though you like to think you are.

                          Comment


                          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            Trump has like 17 WITCH HUNT cases ongoing,
                            FIFY

                            his sister, a circuit court Judge just resigned from the bench due
                            No, stupid. She retired after 2 years of being an inactive senior judge, which is 1 step away from retirement.

                            to an alledged tax fraud scam with her brother the Don.
                            If the charges were legit, her retirement would not have affected the case. The judicial conduct council were the only ones that were even looking into the allegations. Law enforcement saw no merit in the overblown NYT "investigation".

                            He's a bleeping fraud and a crook
                            Quit whining.

                            so he's going down one way or the other whether impeached or not.
                            No he isn't. 4 more years.

                            Oh, btw, though you conservative twebbers are a little slow on the uptake, he's also a treasonous dirt bag whether he's indicted for it or not.
                            Treasonous? More baseless accusations by the whiny female dog JimL. I bet you squat to pee too, don't you?
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                            - Stephen R. Donaldson

                            Comment


                            • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                              I bet you squat to pee too, don't you?
                              ouch...
                              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

                              Comment


                              • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                                FIFY



                                No, stupid. She retired after 2 years of being an inactive senior judge, which is 1 step away from retirement.



                                If the charges were legit, her retirement would not have affected the case. The judicial conduct council were the only ones that were even looking into the allegations. Law enforcement saw no merit in the overblown NYT "investigation".



                                Quit whining.



                                No he isn't. 4 more years.



                                Treasonous? More baseless accusations by the whiny female dog JimL. I bet you squat to pee too, don't you?
                                More nonsense from the brainwashed fool!

                                Comment

                                Related Threads

                                Collapse

                                Topics Statistics Last Post
                                Started by seer, Today, 01:12 PM
                                4 responses
                                56 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post Sparko
                                by Sparko
                                 
                                Started by rogue06, Yesterday, 09:33 AM
                                45 responses
                                354 views
                                1 like
                                Last Post Starlight  
                                Started by whag, 04-16-2024, 10:43 PM
                                60 responses
                                389 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post seanD
                                by seanD
                                 
                                Started by rogue06, 04-16-2024, 09:38 AM
                                0 responses
                                27 views
                                1 like
                                Last Post rogue06
                                by rogue06
                                 
                                Started by Hypatia_Alexandria, 04-16-2024, 06:47 AM
                                100 responses
                                440 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post CivilDiscourse  
                                Working...
                                X