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Meanwhile, the Hollyweird celebutards are predictably rejecting the findings and are becoming increasingly unhinged. This from Rob "Meathead" Reiner:
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostWhat do the Russians have on Mueller?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostWhat do the Russians have on Mueller?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I think given that the Russians DID offer to fix the election and the number of people in the campaign that were criminals the investigation wasn't a witch hunt, but it needed to happen. An investigation like this will hopefully make the smart people wise up to "yes" a foreign idiot can try and hack the election in the US.
2) If you want to elect someone who isn't Donald Trump Vote in 2020
3) Don't hire Cohen and Manafort. EverA happy family is but an earlier heaven.
George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by Catholicity View Post...the number of people in the campaign that were criminals...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostA grand total of 5 or 6 people directly connected to the campaign were indicted and/or plead guilty, one of them (Paul Manafort) for crimes entirely unrelated to and committed years before Trump even announced his candidacy, and the rest were for nothing-burger process crimes. It's actually a surprisingly small number of people, and a surprisingly innocuous list of crimes when you consider just how deeply Mueller dug to find dirt on Trump and his staff.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWould any of them have been charged/convicted were it not for the "we gotta get Trump no matter what"?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIn the case of the process crimes, absolutely not. Those were crimes that were committed only because the individuals were drug in for questioning and caught in a perjury trap. In Manafort's case, it's hard to say if his crimes would have caught up with him eventually or not.
*assuming the DA even allowed charges to be pressed - depends on when and how the nature of the phony warrant is exposed.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWould any of them have been charged/convicted were it not for the "we gotta get Trump no matter what"?A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by Catholicity View PostDo you really believe that their behavior didn't warrant investigation?
Crime has a way of catching up to you.
And Manafort was laundering for years. Of all people CP you should know that no one is above the law.
The campaign investigation was warranted no matter how you put it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAgreed. So it's kinda like the "fruit of the poison tree" situation, in my opinion. If I come into your house on a phony warrant, and discover a stash of marihootchie on your dresser, any charges against you* would be thrown out in court due to the illegal nature of my search.
(Although it's usually a matter of the detectives inadvertently violating someone's rights rather than doing something deliberately shady because the cops are the good guys on the show.)Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThat's a frequent plot point in Law & Order.
(Although it's usually a matter of the detectives inadvertently violating someone's rights rather than doing something deliberately shady because the cops are the good guys on the show.)
The worst, in my experience, was one in which we had arrested a man for the rape and murder of a 9 year old girl -- the guy actually took us to the body in wooded field. His conviction was thrown out, however, because some !$!^!&! Sheriff's Deputy offered the criminal a glass of wine during the interview "to calm him down" --- that deputy should be tied to a wagon wheel and horsewhipped - but the murderer/rapist shouldn't have been set free because of this idiot.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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