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  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Please quote from the report where you think Mueller made this declaration.

    Or don't. Barr, Rosenstein, and other DOJ officials confirmed that there was insufficient evidence to sustain a corruption charge, so it's a moot point.
    This might help:
    https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statem...s-8ab7691c2aa1

    It seems that hundreds of legal experts have signed.

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    Last edited by firstfloor; 05-07-2019, 02:14 AM.
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    • I see... so you are unable to quote Mueller's own words saying that the only reason he didn't recommend indicting the President is because of DOJ rules.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        I see... so you are unable to quote Mueller's own words saying that the only reason he didn't recommend indicting the President is because of DOJ rules.
        The Introduction to Volume II explains why he said “... but we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgement.”

        Barr, as we know, did make a judgement but we also know that he did not consider the evidence or his own departments policy before doing so. He has acted in bad faith.
        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
        “not all there” - you know who you are

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        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          I see... so you are unable to quote Mueller's own words saying that the only reason he didn't recommend indicting the President is because of DOJ rules.
          Why do that when you can find a plethora of Democrats and Never-Trumpers to partisanly parse things for you?
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          • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
            The Introduction to Volume II explains why he said “... but we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgement.”

            Barr, as we know, did make a judgement but we also know that he did not consider the evidence or his own departments policy before doing so. He has acted in bad faith.
            He did consider the evidence. He didn't personally re-investigate it, but he and his staff read and considered it.
            That's what
            - She

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            • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
              He did consider the evidence. He didn't personally re-investigate it, but he and his staff read and considered it.
              Funny how those who are more than willing to act in bad faith have a penchant for accusing others of doing the same.
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              • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                He did consider the evidence. He didn't personally re-investigate it, but he and his staff read and considered it.
                Congress asked him and he said he had not read the evidence.
                “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                “not all there” - you know who you are

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                • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                  Congress asked him and he said he had not read the evidence.
                  It would improve your credibility if you could occasionally provide an actual cite without being pressed.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                    Congress asked him and he said he had not read the evidence.
                    No he didn't. He said

                    We accepted the statements in the report as the actual record. We did not go underneath it to see whether or not they were accurate. We accepted it as accurate,


                    That means they read the evidence, but did not independently re-investigate the evidence. It was read.
                    That's what
                    - She

                    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                    - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                    • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                      No he didn't. He said

                      We accepted the statements in the report as the actual record. We did not go underneath it to see whether or not they were accurate. We accepted it as accurate,


                      That means they read the evidence, but did not independently re-investigate the evidence. It was read.
                      And that, sir, is why my good friend ff rarely uses cites or actual quotes.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                        No he didn't. He said

                        We accepted the statements in the report as the actual record. We did not go underneath it to see whether or not they were accurate. We accepted it as accurate,


                        That means they read the evidence, but did not independently re-investigate the evidence. It was read.
                        The reason that Barr is AG is because he had already demonstrated a legal theory that placed POTUS above the law. He didn’t need to read the evidence in order to write his verdict other than simply check that the door was open just enough for him to creep through like a thief in the night. He is without a doubt the most villainous AG since John Mitchell.
                        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                        “not all there” - you know who you are

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                        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          It would improve your credibility if you could occasionally provide an actual cite without being pressed.
                          I was referring, of course, to the question put by the wonderful Kamala Harris to the effect of ‘did you read the evidence?’ (as opposed to the findings in Mueller’s report), to which the immediate answer was no, (why would I, I’d already made up my mind.)

                          How’s that for credibility?
                          “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                          “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                          “not all there” - you know who you are

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            And that, sir, is why my good friend ff rarely uses cites or actual quotes.
                            It's same reason JimL doesn't use cites or actual quotes

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                            • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                              I was referring, of course, to the question put by the wonderful Kamala Harris to the effect of ‘did you read the evidence?’ (as opposed to the findings in Mueller’s report), to which the immediate answer was no, (why would I, I’d already made up my mind.)

                              How’s that for credibility?
                              You're almost as credible as a used car salesman*..... keep striving!

                              But, again, what he actually said was "No, we accepted the statements in the report as a factual record. We did not go underneath it to see whether or not they were accurate. We accepted it as accurate," Barr said of himself and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.



                              *I could have said 'a member of Congress' but I don't think you're quite THAT bad
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • Originally posted by dirtfloor View Post
                                The reason that Barr is AG is because he had already demonstrated a legal theory that placed POTUS above the law.
                                Fake news.
                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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