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  • #16
    But in Hebrew and Aramaic, 666 = WWW. Does that mean the internet is a tool of Satan?

    We're all DOOMED!!!
    When I Survey....

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      That's some pretty loony graphics ya got there.
      I've seen better from Bible Code advocates

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Faber View Post
        But in Hebrew and Aramaic, 666 = WWW. Does that mean the internet is a tool of Satan?

        We're all DOOMED!!!
        Well that explains facebook then.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by JohnHermes View Post


          5 seen in michelangelo's painting.

          That's Da Vinci and shouldn't there be another three points in that?

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          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JohnHermes View Post
              So now they are just adding random lines to the drawing to come up with different symbols? LOL

              You realize this was just Da Vinci doing anatomical studies of the human body proportions and movement, right? Nothing to do with religion.


              The Vitruvian Man (Italian: Le proporzioni del corpo umano secondo Vitruvio, which is translated to "The proportions of the human body according to Vitruvius"), or simply L'Uomo Vitruviano (Italian pronunciation: [ˈlwɔːmo vitruˈvjaːno]), is a drawing made by the Italian polymath Leonardo da Vinci around 1490.[1] It is accompanied by notes based on the work of the architect Vitruvius. The drawing, which is in ink on paper, depicts a man in two superimposed positions with his arms and legs apart and inscribed in a circle and square. The drawing and text are sometimes called the Canon of Proportions or, less often, Proportions of Man. It is kept in the Gabinetto dei disegni e stampe of the Gallerie dell'Accademia, in Venice, Italy, under reference 228. Like most works on paper, it is displayed to the public only occasionally, so it is not part of the normal exhibition of the museum.[2][3]

              The drawing is based on the correlations of ideal human body proportions with geometry described by the ancient Roman architect Vitruvius in Book III of his treatise De architectura. Vitruvius described the human figure as being the principal source of proportion among the classical orders of architecture. Vitruvius determined that the ideal body should be eight heads high. Leonardo's drawing is traditionally named in honor of the architect.

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              • #22
                Anatomy and theology in an an esoteric view go hand in hand. A lot of parables pertaining to astrotheology which includes the anatomical reflecting the astrological (like the 12 human cranial nerves representing the 12 zodiacs) . The 2nd hermetic principles as "As above So Below" which is seen throughout nature. Numbers, geometry are hand in hand connected with conscious archetypes of personality. A lot of these artists had esoteric insight and love to speak in parables. Artists and their poetry, whether it's writing or art.

                I believe he was portraying the ultimate man, Adam Kadmon of the Old Testament.

                According to Da Vinci himself, this symbol shows Man has the perfect blueprint of the Universe, made in the Golden Ratio (this is his official definition. He was definitely an Occultist). I won’t break down the image here, but it’s got some very strong symbolism. According to me, he is showing the Mundane, that is the Earthly vessel of Man, as well as the Sacred, the Awakened Man, as the same being. Or perhaps, like the symbol of Christ, he wants to show the emergence of the Awakened Man upon Crucifixion of his flesh. This is the same concept shown in Hinduism by the Lotus emerging from the mud.

                https://betweenthepillars.wordpress....many-meanings/





                Tetragrammaton
                To begin, since the Pentagram, the Microcosmic Star, is the Word of God made flesh, the words written in it are related to different alphabets. Let us begin with the word written around it that says, “Tetragrammaton.” As you see, Tetragrammaton is written with Latin letters, nonetheless it is a Greek word, which means “the four-lettered name of God,” which in Kabbalah, in Hebrew , is spelled Iod-Hei-Vav-Hei (יהוה). These four letters are written on the right arm of the pentagram.

                On the left arm is written “Adam” with the Hebrew letters Aleph Daleth Mem-final.

                Adam

                In the Hebrew alphabet there are two Mems: an open Mem that you write in the beginning or in the middle of the word, and a closed Mem for the end of a word. Mem-final is closed, which symbolizes a closed womb. An open Mem symbolizes an open womb.

                mem-open.closed

                The Mem-final of “Adam” has been drawn in different ways; for instance, observe the pentagram of Eliphas Levi, who talks in detail about it:

                eliphas-levi-pentagram


                If you see the image of the pentagram in his book, you will see that the letter Mem-final is a kind of “closed hand.” After having been copied over and over again, the symbol has become distorted. Thus, some people now think that the Mem-final is a letter Nun followed by the letter Iod, which instead of Adam would spell Adonai (Aleph Daleth, Nun, Iod). But that is a misunderstanding caused by poor legibility of the Mem-final in the pentagram drawing by Eliphas Levi.

                So, the Hebrew word on the left arm is not Adonai but Adam, because the pentagram represents the androgynous man made into the image of God, called the Adam Solus or Adam-Iod-Havah, which is the Microcosm represented by the Kabbalists of the book Zohar with the term Microprosopus, and that is written with two Hebrew words Adam Iod-Havah, or Adam Chavah (Adam Eve), respectively, on each arm.

                Adam Chavah (Adam Eve) forms the Tetragrammaton, because Adam (after the division of sexes) symbolizes the phallus, the lingam, as the woman represents the vagina, the yoni. Adam is related with the letter Iod. So when you write the letter Iod by itself, it represents Adam, because Iod symbolizes the phallus, and because the letter Iod has the numerical value of ten, which represents the ten Sephiroth.

                In the Tree of Life, the ten Sephiroth, you find behind it the sacred image of the Zohar . The Kabbalists of the book Zohar place the great man, Adam Kadmon, which is also called Arik Anpin, the vast face or countenance, behind the Tree of Life. The head of Adam Kadmon is in the infinite, which in Kabbalah is called Atziluth. His chest is in Briah, the world of creation. His waist is in Yetzirah, the world of formation and of angels. And he stands on Assiah, the world of action with one foot in the water and the other foot on the earth. That is the symbol of that gigantic man, or that gigantic Adam, which is called the Macrocosmos. In this way, macro means huge.


                https://gnosticteachings.org/courses...smic-star.html
                Last edited by JohnHermes; 04-05-2019, 05:01 AM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by JohnHermes View Post
                  Anatomy and theology in an an esoteric view go hand in hand. A lot of parables pertaining to astrotheology which includes the anatomical reflecting the astrological (like the 12 human cranial nerves representing the 12 zodiacs) . The 2nd hermetic principles as "As above So Below" which is seen throughout nature. Numbers, geometry are hand in hand connected with conscious archetypes of personality. A lot of these artists had esoteric insight and love to speak in parables. Artists and their poetry, whether it's writing or art.

                  I believe he was portraying the ultimate man, Adam Kadmon of the Old Testament.

                  According to Da Vinci himself, this symbol shows Man has the perfect blueprint of the Universe, made in the Golden Ratio (this is his official definition. He was definitely an Occultist). I won’t break down the image here, but it’s got some very strong symbolism. According to me, he is showing the Mundane, that is the Earthly vessel of Man, as well as the Sacred, the Awakened Man, as the same being. Or perhaps, like the symbol of Christ, he wants to show the emergence of the Awakened Man upon Crucifixion of his flesh. This is the same concept shown in Hinduism by the Lotus emerging from the mud.

                  https://betweenthepillars.wordpress....many-meanings/





                  Tetragrammaton
                  To begin, since the Pentagram, the Microcosmic Star, is the Word of God made flesh, the words written in it are related to different alphabets. Let us begin with the word written around it that says, “Tetragrammaton.” As you see, Tetragrammaton is written with Latin letters, nonetheless it is a Greek word, which means “the four-lettered name of God,” which in Kabbalah, in Hebrew , is spelled Iod-Hei-Vav-Hei (יהוה). These four letters are written on the right arm of the pentagram.

                  On the left arm is written “Adam” with the Hebrew letters Aleph Daleth Mem-final.

                  Adam

                  In the Hebrew alphabet there are two Mems: an open Mem that you write in the beginning or in the middle of the word, and a closed Mem for the end of a word. Mem-final is closed, which symbolizes a closed womb. An open Mem symbolizes an open womb.

                  mem-open.closed

                  The Mem-final of “Adam” has been drawn in different ways; for instance, observe the pentagram of Eliphas Levi, who talks in detail about it:

                  eliphas-levi-pentagram


                  If you see the image of the pentagram in his book, you will see that the letter Mem-final is a kind of “closed hand.” After having been copied over and over again, the symbol has become distorted. Thus, some people now think that the Mem-final is a letter Nun followed by the letter Iod, which instead of Adam would spell Adonai (Aleph Daleth, Nun, Iod). But that is a misunderstanding caused by poor legibility of the Mem-final in the pentagram drawing by Eliphas Levi.

                  So, the Hebrew word on the left arm is not Adonai but Adam, because the pentagram represents the androgynous man made into the image of God, called the Adam Solus or Adam-Iod-Havah, which is the Microcosm represented by the Kabbalists of the book Zohar with the term Microprosopus, and that is written with two Hebrew words Adam Iod-Havah, or Adam Chavah (Adam Eve), respectively, on each arm.

                  Adam Chavah (Adam Eve) forms the Tetragrammaton, because Adam (after the division of sexes) symbolizes the phallus, the lingam, as the woman represents the vagina, the yoni. Adam is related with the letter Iod. So when you write the letter Iod by itself, it represents Adam, because Iod symbolizes the phallus, and because the letter Iod has the numerical value of ten, which represents the ten Sephiroth.

                  In the Tree of Life, the ten Sephiroth, you find behind it the sacred image of the Zohar . The Kabbalists of the book Zohar place the great man, Adam Kadmon, which is also called Arik Anpin, the vast face or countenance, behind the Tree of Life. The head of Adam Kadmon is in the infinite, which in Kabbalah is called Atziluth. His chest is in Briah, the world of creation. His waist is in Yetzirah, the world of formation and of angels. And he stands on Assiah, the world of action with one foot in the water and the other foot on the earth. That is the symbol of that gigantic man, or that gigantic Adam, which is called the Macrocosmos. In this way, macro means huge.


                  https://gnosticteachings.org/courses...smic-star.html
                  You really need to add your own ideas and thoughts to a post and not just post quotes from other places. We have a rule about that.

                  Debates (points for your position) made via weblink are not allowed. Weblinks may be used when a substantive summary of the point being made is posted on the board with a link given for further information regarding your position. Remember responsive arguments are to be as personal as possible, not "cut and paste" dueling articles. This can be avoided by giving one's personal analysis along with an article, or just quoting the specifically relevant portions and showing relevance. An exception is granted for articles or other larger pieces posted to start a thread which may be posted in accordance with our copyright rules without further commentary from the thread starter.

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                  • #24
                    No worries! Explain my point of view, and leave links that has more info (if need be).

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JohnHermes View Post
                      No worries! Explain my point of view, and leave links that has more info (if need be).
                      Thanks!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        Thanks!
                        No, you don't understand. He's asking you to explain his point of view, for him and for you to provide the links.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                          No, you don't understand. He's asking you to explain his point of view, for him and for you to provide the links.

                          How would that work?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            How would that work?
                            Mindreading.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
                              Mindreading.
                              He really doesn't want me to explain his point of view or mind read him. ask Carp.

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                              • #30
                                Paradox valley lol

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