A Brewing Rebellion in Seattle

[Cow Poke]

A Brewing Rebellion in Seattle

When I first saw the title, I thought this might be about micro-breweries and big alcohol!

It is, however, an expose on a city run amuck with liberal nonsense, and somebody finally stepping up and saying something about it.

[Bill the Cat]

You know you've won the debate when the leftists call you white supremacist, bigot, racist, homophobe, sexists.

[oxmixmudd]

A Brewing Rebellion in Seattle

When I first saw the title, I thought this might be about micro-breweries and big alcohol!

It is, however, an expose on a city run amuck with liberal nonsense, and somebody finally stepping up and saying something about it.

This article causes me to ponder some rather difficult conundrums:

Is it possible to care about poor people without allowing chaos? Is it possible to push back against idiot policies that encourage crime without catering only to the rich?

Is it possible to care about the environment without killing the economy? Is it possible to be reasonable about the cost of dealing with AGM without giving in to big industry special interests?

It seems to me there is almost nowhere left in this country where it is possible to be sensible, or reasonable. We either build a wall and throw kids in detention centers, or we just open the doors wide and let whoever will waltz in.

Is it possible to recognize the abuse of women without ruining the careers of men that accidentally make a women 'uncomfortable'*?

Is there no one left that actually wants to do the right thing, do the the thing that is best for everyone?



Jim

*NOT a reference to Biden

[Cow Poke]

This article causes me to ponder some rather difficult conundrums:

Is it possible to care about poor people without allowing chaos? Is it possible to push back against idiot policies that encourage crime without catering only to the rich?

Absolutely. Our local shelter, of which our Church is a supporter, does this every day of the week.

Is it possible to care about the environment without killing the economy? Is it possible to be reasonable about the cost of dealing with AGM without giving in to big industry special interests?

It seems to me there is almost nowhere left in this country where it is possible to be sensible, or reasonable. We either build a wall and throw kids in detention centers, or we just open the doors wide and let whoever will waltz in.

I guess I don't live "in this country".

Is it possible to recognize the abuse of women without ruining the careers of men that accidentally make a women 'uncomfortable'*?

Is there no one left that actually wants to do the right thing, do the the thing that is best for everyone?



Jim

*NOT a reference to Biden

Certainly it's possible, but we have to agree that's what we want, instead of pursuing our own agenda.

[oxmixmudd]

Absolutely. Our local shelter, of which our Church is a supporter, does this every day of the week.



I guess I don't live "in this country".

My entire reply is addressed to the talking heads of the county and those that question not one iota of what is propagated from them. It is not meant to impune any individual here.

The problem as I see it is that there is no way to speak up for any sane policy because the extremes on both sides will take issue with it and start rallying against such a position a painting it as if it represented the other extreme, when in fact it is in-between the two extremes and represents a balanced point of view.

Certainly it's possible, but we have to agree that's what we want, instead of pursuing our own agenda.

I think that's the point. Even here I can't push back on any point made to try to find some sort of middle ground. The perception is: IF one pushes back, one is in bed with the 'other' guy and MUST be stomped on, pushed aside, belittled etc etc.

It was like that in Nat Sci too. A person could not even ask if a point of view was valid. Which ever side regarded the 'question' as absurd because it's already 'settled science' ripped the poor 'questioner' to shreds.


Jim

[Cow Poke]

My entire reply is addressed to the talking heads of the county and those that question not one iota of what is propagated from them.

Yeah, unfortunately, they probably aren't reading here.

It is not meant to impune any individual here.

The problem as I see it is that there is no way to speak up for any sane policy because the extremes on both sides will take issue with it and start rallying against such a position a painting it as if it represented the other extreme, when in fact it is in-between the two extremes and represents a balanced point of view.

That's why it's important to be involved locally - you don't have to go with national idiocy.

I think that's the point. Even here I can't push back on any point made to try to find some sort of middle ground. The perception is: IF one pushes back, one is in bed with the 'other' guy and MUST be stomped on, pushed aside, belittled etc etc.

TWeb seems to be a microcosm of the extreme polarization of the country. I don't find that nearly as much in our local community.

It was like that in Nat Sci too. A person could not even ask if a point of view was valid. Which ever side regarded the 'question' as absurd because it's already 'settled science' ripped the poor 'questioner' to shreds.


Jim

Tell me about it! I ask a simple question about Climate Change, and the Climate Inquisitors start.... Or even THINK about marriage being between one man and one woman, and you're branded.....

It comes from both sides, Jim.

[oxmixmudd]

Yeah, unfortunately, they probably aren't reading here.



That's why it's important to be involved locally - you don't have to go with national idiocy.



TWeb seems to be a microcosm of the extreme polarization of the country. I don't find that nearly as much in our local community.



Tell me about it! I ask a simple question about Climate Change, and the Climate Inquisitors start.... Or even THINK about marriage being between one man and one woman, and you're branded.....

It comes from both sides, Jim.

But that's the point. Who decides to stop because the way things are going it just will get worse. Someone has to turn the other cheek and put up a higher goal than 'victory!'

Jim

[Cow Poke]

But that's the point. Who decides to stop because the way things are going it just will get worse. Someone has to turn the other cheek and put up a higher goal than 'victory!'

Jim

I've been backing WAY off, Jim... For example, I've pretty well concluded that trying to have a conversation with Tassman is like wrestling a pig in the mud -- I get all dirty and he seems to enjoy it.

[Sparko]

My entire reply is addressed to the talking heads of the county and those that question not one iota of what is propagated from them. It is not meant to impune any individual here.

The problem as I see it is that there is no way to speak up for any sane policy because the extremes on both sides will take issue with it and start rallying against such a position a painting it as if it represented the other extreme, when in fact it is in-between the two extremes and represents a balanced point of view.

Jim

I also think the entire country has gone insane. I wonder if our descendants will look back at the early 21st century as "the time of madness"?

Come Lord Jesus!

[guacamole]

I was really hop(p)ing this thread was going to be about craft beer.

[Sparko]

I was really hop(p)ing this thread was going to be about craft beer.

That was beerly a pun.

[Cow Poke]

I was really hop(p)ing this thread was going to be about craft beer.

from the OP....

When I first saw the title, I thought this might be about micro-breweries and big alcohol!

[guacamole]

from the OP....

Okay. Gotta give CP credit for coming up with the joke first. I skimmed the first page, missed his comment, then jumped to make my (stale) joke.

Take your amen..

[Cow Poke]

Okay. Gotta give CP credit for coming up with the joke first. I skimmed the first page, missed his comment, then jumped to make my (stale) joke.

Take your amen..

[mossrose]

I thought this thread was about coffee.

You heathens and your booze.