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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    You will never find anything to convince you of what is obvious to anyone other than Evangelical bigots, that Buttigieg is a committed Christian.
    Seriously, If I were to find ANY statement from Buttigieg's own mouth claiming that he was a "practicing Christian" or "confessed/confesses Christ" or acknowledged Jesus as Lord or Savior or Lord and Savior or..... ANYTHING, I'd have to acknowledge that that's what I've been asking for.

    That's what I have CONSISTENTLY been asking for. Instead, all I get is third party claims from leftist websites or CNN's go-to liberal priest, and Tassman constantly changing his claim, denying he made any such claim, changing the terms, accusing me of lies, falsely accusing me.....

    So, I'll let you have the last word*, Tassman. Make it good. Build up a good head of steam, and let'r rip!!!!



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    And, this just in ... Absolutely TOTALLY shocking!!!!

    A Major LGBT Political Group Is Set To Endorse Pete Buttigieg For President

    Who would have EVER guessed that!

    And, who is the President of Victory Fund? None other than former Mayor Annise Parker, who was embroiled in controversy over issuing subpoenas to Houston area Pastors for “all speeches, presentations, or sermons related to HERO, the Petition, Mayor Annise Parker, homosexuality, or gender identity prepared by, delivered by, revised by, or approved by you or in your possession.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    You will never find anything to convince you of what is obvious to anyone other than Evangelical bigots, that Buttigieg is a committed Christian.
    There are Christians other than Evangelicals who think living in a homosexual relationship is at odds with being a committed Christian. As a Confessional Lutheran I'm one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    There are Christians other than Evangelicals who think living in a homosexual relationship is at odds with being a committed Christian. As a Confessional Lutheran I'm one of them.
    Indeed, there are, but Buttigieg is not one of them. He believes that one can be a committed Christian and a practicing homosexual. And his views reflect majority opinion within US Christianity according to the statistics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    Indeed, there are, but Buttigieg is not one of them. He believes that one can be a committed Christian and a practicing homosexual. And his views reflect majority opinion within US Christianity according to the statistics.
    Of course, one wonders how many of those Christians who hold that opinion are actually committed believers themselves. I would think the statistics would look considerably different if it was possible to remove all of the non-committal, "name-only" Christians from the statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    Of course, one wonders how many of those Christians who hold that opinion are actually committed believers themselves. I would think the statistics would look considerably different if it was possible to remove all of the non-committal, "name-only" Christians from the statistics.
    Well we have no way of knowing but it’s a tad presumptuous to suggest that Christians who differ from your form of Evangelical Christianity are not real Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    Well we have no way of knowing but it’s a tad presumptuous to suggest that Christians who differ from your form of Evangelical Christianity are not real Christians.
    Lutheranism (Even Confessional Lutheranism) is not a form of "Evangelical Christianity", atleast not in the way "Evangelical" is usually defined. But I'm not assuming that every Christian who differs from my form of Christianity is not a real Christian, or even non-committal in their beliefs. Committed Catholics and Orthodox believers would certainly differ from "my form of Evangelical Christianity" for example, but I would still not discount their opinion on this issue. My assumption is simply that the majority of Christians in the US, irrespective of denomination, are non-committal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    Indeed, there are, but Buttigieg is not one of them. He believes that one can be a committed Christian and a practicing homosexual. And his views reflect majority opinion within US Christianity according to the statistics.
    And yet what remains lacking is Buttigieg himself ever saying anything about him being a committed/practicing Christian. And therein lies the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    I see. So, it is quite conceivable that, as far as you’re concerned, Buttigieg may well a “practicing Christian” despite being a practicing homosexual who is married to a man?
    If one defines "Christian" as a "saved person," I would say that it is marginally conceivable that Buttgiggy is a genuine Christian, but I would say his "practice" is severely defective and likely ultimately destructive (meaning leading to apostasy and damnation).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    Lutheranism (Even Confessional Lutheranism) is not a form of "Evangelical Christianity", atleast not in the way "Evangelical" is usually defined. But I'm not assuming that every Christian who differs from my form of Christianity is not a real Christian, or even non-committal in their beliefs. Committed Catholics and Orthodox believers would certainly differ from "my form of Evangelical Christianity" for example, but I would still not discount their opinion on this issue. My assumption is simply that the majority of Christians in the US, irrespective of denomination, are non-committal.
    Perhaps non-committal but if pressed would probably (albeit defensively) defend their Christianity and their views as such.
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